oldtimer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 56 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Go back to the seventies for when we last betrayed a battlefield ally. Who was the betrayed group then? Anyone, anyone? And who was potus at the time? Anyone? No history buffs or those who lived through it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Anyone? No history buffs or those who lived through it? are you talking about South Vietnam? They took it in the shorts after we left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, BigStewMan said: are you talking about South Vietnam? They took it in the shorts after we left. More specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: More specific. well, we screwed both South Vietnam and Cambodia. falling to communism, the cambodian genocide, Khmer Rouge -- pol pot ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Someone with special forces knowledge might know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 i tried. i guess i’ll stop thinking and just drink beer and watch YOUR new england patriots tonight (rooting for the Jets though). Question: John Elway and the Broncos are playing against Tom Brady’s Pats ... who do you want to win? (i know you’d prefer they both lose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/11/the-green-berets-and-the-montagnards-how-an-indigenous-tribe-won-the-admiration-of-green-berets-and-lost-everything.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, BigStewMan said: i tried. i guess i’ll stop thinking and just drink beer and watch YOUR new england patriots tonight (rooting for the Jets though). Question: John Elway and the Broncos are playing against Tom Brady’s Pats ... who do you want to win? (i know you’d prefer they both lose). Don't watch you are only encouraging them. It would have to be a tie, and Brady gets hurt for the season and Elway breaks his hip in a fall in the luxury booth. But I am a softie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/11/the-green-berets-and-the-montagnards-how-an-indigenous-tribe-won-the-admiration-of-green-berets-and-lost-everything.html Yes, you screwed the Hmong the very minute Nixon pulled out of a Civil War the USA, S. Korea and Australia should not have been in. There were no favors for the rural people’s in S. Vietnam either. Caught between a rock during the day and a hard place at night. Most people involved in that war should have read Bernard Fall’s ‘Hell in a Very Small Place’ and ‘Street Without Joy’. And paid attention to his conclusions. The book the ‘Ten Thousand Day War’ is also a great book on what used to be called French Indochina. Uncle Ho was originally friendly to the West and in particular the USA when FDR and Truman were in the White House. Wb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, oldtimer said: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2013/11/the-green-berets-and-the-montagnards-how-an-indigenous-tribe-won-the-admiration-of-green-berets-and-lost-everything.html i was kinda right even though i’d never heard of the montagnards before today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Don't watch you are only encouraging them. if we don’t watch, the terrorists win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Wolfbane said: Right now we have a popular figurehead of state in our Queen here but I don’t know anyone looking forward to her son Charles succeeding her. The last King Charles was a bad King which is not a good omen. King? Queen? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: King? Queen? Remember Napoleon lost first ‘The Battle of Nations’ and at Waterloo (the Prussian’s certainly made that result inevitable). Invading Spain and Russia didn’t help. Result: British monarchy survives their greatest threat since the Battle at Hastings and keep a throne. Wb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 British monarchy were French until they were German, because of the battle of Hastings, as I recall. French was also the language spoken at court. The current slugs actual name is Saxe-Coburg Gotha, which belies the German heritage. Windsor is a sham of a name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 It is more complicated than that. The Norman’s were originally Norseman who conquered western France. French was the language at all European Courts and of diplomacy for hundreds of years (Just like English is the language of air traffic control today). The British monarchy became German, cemented by Victoria’s marriage to Albert and yes their descendants had to change their German name to the made up name of Windsor. It did not look good to be fighting Germany in WWI with a last name that is so obviously German.👑 That said, everyone comes from elsewhere in this world if you go back far enough. Wb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyBob Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Mornin' All Well, the party ends. I pick the wife up at 11AM ... the house is pretty clean. Anyone have a sure-fire way to get glitter up? jk jk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Yep, bleach around the bathrooms then the kitchen surfaces. Not with the same implement. Won't matter if there is laundry left to be done, it won't go anywhere and could wait forever! She'll recognize the effort and maybe reciprocate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, WillyBob said: Mornin' All Well, the party ends. I pick the wife up at 11AM ... the house is pretty clean. Anyone have a sure-fire way to get glitter up? jk jk Depending on the surface either a strong vacuum or a newly minted lint roller like you would use on clothes. Wb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Wolfbane said: Right now we have a popular figurehead of state in our Queen here but I don’t know anyone looking forward to her son Charles succeeding her. Maybe the Queen wants to outlive him so he won't become king... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 14 hours ago, BigStewMan said: i was kinda right even though i’d never heard of the montagnards before today. I was thinking about Steve Canyon, but haven't found anything about the montagnards in any of those stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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