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I think I have a ground loop on my mono blocks. When I connect both amps, I get a loud buzzing sound. If I disconnect wither it goes away. How do I resolve this problem?

Thanks!

A ground loop is a 60 Hz hummmmmm. Is that what your hearing? I wouldn't describe it as a buzzing.

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It sounds like the typical sound you hear in your car's radio when you accelerate. I have tried to use plugs without the ground connector but it makes no difference. I have also plugged them into different outlets but again, no difference.

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It sounds like the typical sound you hear in your car's radio when you accelerate. I have tried to use plugs without the ground connector but it makes no difference. I have also plugged them into different outlets but again, no difference.

That car radio sound is EMI from ignition system, that's why they came up with supression wires and resistor plugs.

Do you have a preamp connected to the amps?

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I just bought these amps. So the issue appeared as soon as I connected them.
I spoke with a tech at VAC who believes it is an RF problem. I have tried disconnecting virtually all electrical devices. Interestingly, it becomes much loader if I turn off the preamp.

Also, one channel buzzes much more loudly than the other.

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I had a problem with 60 Hz hum from my erstwhile Mark Levinson ML-2 mono blocs, plugged into separate power circuits (I had no choice). Putting a "cheater" plug on ONE side totally got rid of it.

It definitely was not RF or EMI, which can be controlled or varied by moving things around. RF = radio sounds, IMI = hum from nearby 60 Hx circuits.

I also had a raspy buzz on my amps that turned out to be due to a dimmer switch on transformer-based halogen lights, not necessarily on the same circuit. That was cured by replacing the "incandescent only" dimmer switch with one labeled something like "for halogen lights" or something like that. This sounds like it could be that kind of problem.

You also might try changing your Dick Cheney avatar!

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I found system noise can come from the interconnect cables,or power cables, system synergy / matching, nearby TV, or other electrical devices in the same circuit and can be a real PITA to run down. I wish you luck Earl

Don't let the little issues you are having run you away from tubes, look on it as a learning experience, and next time you upgrade you will be prepared for the issues

Knowledge is King in this hobby as it is many others and there is little substitute for hands on training :emotion-21:

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OK...so I moved the mono blocks from the K'horns upstairs to the Cornscalas downstairs. The hum is almost gone. If you put your ear to the tweeter you can still hear it, but otherwise it is inaudible.

Joe, it is tempting to pull out the solid state amp, but as you say, "look on it as a learning experience." Boy, do I have a lot to learn!

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I had a problem with 60 Hz hum from my erstwhile Mark Levinson ML-2 mono blocs, plugged into separate power circuits (I had no choice). Putting a "cheater" plug on ONE side totally got rid of it.

It definitely was not RF or EMI, which can be controlled or varied by moving things around. RF = radio sounds, IMI = hum from nearby 60 Hx circuits.

I also had a raspy buzz on my amps that turned out to be due to a dimmer switch on transformer-based halogen lights, not necessarily on the same circuit. That was cured by replacing the "incandescent only" dimmer switch with one labeled something like "for halogen lights" or something like that. This sounds like it could be that kind of problem.

You also might try changing your **** Cheney avatar!

LOL, I'm sure it's that Cheney Avatar causing his problems :o Now I can see why he gave Amy such a ration of CARP :huh: in the farmhouse thread :rolleyes:

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I had a problem with 60 Hz hum from my erstwhile Mark Levinson ML-2 mono blocs, plugged into separate power circuits (I had no choice). Putting a "cheater" plug on ONE side totally got rid of it.

It definitely was not RF or EMI, which can be controlled or varied by moving things around. RF = radio sounds, IMI = hum from nearby 60 Hx circuits.

I also had a raspy buzz on my amps that turned out to be due to a dimmer switch on transformer-based halogen lights, not necessarily on the same circuit. That was cured by replacing the "incandescent only" dimmer switch with one labeled something like "for halogen lights" or something like that. This sounds like it could be that kind of problem.

You also might try changing your **** Cheney avatar!

LOL, I'm sure it's that Cheney Avatar causing his problems :o Now I can see why he gave Amy such a ration of CARP :huh: in the farmhouse thread :rolleyes:

Not sure what you meant by a "ration of carp" but it sounds fishy to me.

As for Cheney, watch out because we have ways of dealing with our "friends"...especially those with a name like "Kaiser," comrade. B)

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So the problem is the speakers(?) or their location in your house(closer to some source of interference). What I was going to suggest if the amps have RCA inputs is putting a shorting plug on the inputs. This document will help walk you through the process of finding your problem:

http://www.jensen-transformers.com/an/generic%20seminar.pdf

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OK Mr. Gump, here's that refresher ;)

"With all due respect, it is just inconceivable to me that the Moderator could have been unaware of this event. It has been one of the biggest topics of discussion for many weeks. However, I take you at your word and am happy that we can count on the "New Klipsch" to support these events in the future (with sufficient notice)"

I don't know what's funnier, Dick Cheney in your Avatar or the forum veteran above it. I'll suggest to our wonderful moderator that they change the title for under 1K post to Newbie Veteran with all due respect comrade :)

Cheney shoots his own buddies so I'm well aware he knows how to take care of guys (I'm an Air Force Vet) like me as well. Now that you have told me you like like a Dick I totally understand :lol:

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