Toon Army Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 http://www.lampizator.eu/newdac/lampizator/Speakers.html Don't know if anyone has posted about these but I couldn't find anything. I thought of Jubilees immediately though he mentions that any comparison ends at looks alone. Seem similar to me. Any thoughts? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) for 19000 Euros I'd prefer to go for a Oris Swing or Volti Audio Vittora which both will absolutely sounds far better than what someone like lampizator who is "a speaker designer and is quite good at it" (!) might ever imagine. he says he has been designing speakers for 25 years but all his effort sums up to a speaker with an absolute replica of a Klipsch Jubilee bassbin with an ugly JBL 2360 on top of it! I think he should be rewarded an audio congressional medal of honor I don't know if someone with that level of skills call himself "speaker designer", what should someone like Siegfried Linkwitz call himself! Edited April 26, 2014 by Arash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David H Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Looks like a copy of Dana Moores Jamboree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Army Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Well this is it. He says it isn't a copy but it seems to me that the man doth protest too much! Seems like a very high price to me, much like all his products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I was taking a look at his sight, I would like to see more of his construction. But where does he come up with Klipsch Jamboree, I never knew such a think existed. I do like how he has the front panel setup, I would like to see how he went about this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Jamboree is like Cornscala, not Klipsch but a "bow to" PWK's legacy. They look nice but 60% of that speaker (if running non-active crossovers) will be the crossover design. Hopefully he is really good at voicing and crossover math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMiRA Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 ive been eyeing jamborees for a while. anyone ever heard a set to have an opinion on how they compare to a jubilee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Jamboree is like Cornscala How is the Jamboree like a Cornscala, the Cornscala is a direct fire woofer where as the Jamboree is a single folded horn more like a Lascala but with 2 15's instead of one. Plus the ones that are being sold by Lampizator have that big old JBL horn which I think is wonderful looking. They look nice but 60% of that speaker (if running non-active crossovers) will be the crossover design. Hopefully he is really good at voicing and crossover math This is something I am working on, I would like to try some passives from Al, as I feel setting up a active is tricky and difficult. Hopefully I can get if figured out. ive been eyeing jamborees for a while. anyone ever heard a set to have an opinion on how they compare to a jubilee? I haven't but if I had my hands on a pair of Jubilees I sure wouldn't have taken the time to build the Jamboree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Looks like a copy of Dana Moores Jamboree. You are correct GH He has noted that in this quote And finally YES they look similar to Klipsh Jamboree and Jubilee but the similarities end on the photo. The drivers are different, both horns are different, magnets, diaphragms and whole crossover are different. [\quote] I can say that with my La Scala build - They also has deferent drivers, magnets, diaphragms and different crossovers and I can add an Eliptrac 400 horn Anyone want my speakers for 19 K euro Edited April 29, 2014 by Full Range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeker Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Id love to hear these when done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The crossovers would be several thousand as I see hand made Duelund capacitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzannucci Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Jamboree is like Cornscala How is the Jamboree like a Cornscala, the Cornscala is a direct fire woofer where as the Jamboree is a single folded horn more like a Lascala but with 2 15's instead of one. Plus the ones that are being sold by Lampizator have that big old JBL horn which I think is wonderful looking. They look nice but 60% of that speaker (if running non-active crossovers) will be the crossover design. Hopefully he is really good at voicing and crossover math This is something I am working on, I would like to try some passives from Al, as I feel setting up a active is tricky and difficult. Hopefully I can get if figured out. Duder1982, My point is that Cornscala and Jamboree are a "BOW TO" PWK which means "Not Real Klipsch" products but someone's impersonation, for lack of better words. You missed the comma and the rest of the sentence. I definitely know the technology differences. Too many folks come on this forum and talk like Cornscala is a Klipsch product and close to a semi-consistent design. It is neither of these is true. Here's my Cornscala's (joking) As far as crossovers, as soon as you change anything about the speaker, even the distance between the drivers, (let alone drivers, and horns), the crossover will need to be modified. If you are thinking of one of Al's passives, you may want to build it yourself since he usually has the schematics available and tweak it so the voicing is more correct for your equipment, drivers, and room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 My point is that Cornscala and Jamboree are a "BOW TO" PWK which means "Not Real Klipsch" Ok I was wondering if that is what you meant, nice looking speaker setup you have there. If you are thinking of one of Al's passives, you may want to build it yourself since he usually has the schematics available he has removed them do to people stilling his designs for personal gain. I have thought about it but once you price out the parts per say for the apt-600 its only $100.00 more. Al has told me his networks are pretty universal, I would like to still give them a shot. So I can compare a active vs a good passive. I can say regardless, designing either one is a bit of a task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 someone else is using bel canto besides me... nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Looks like a copy of Dana Moores Jamboree. You are correct GH He has noted that in this quote And finally YES they look similar to Klipsh Jamboree and Jubilee but the similarities end on the photo. The drivers are different, both horns are different, magnets, diaphragms and whole crossover are different. [\quote] I can say that with my La Scala build - They also has deferent drivers, magnets, diaphragms and different crossovers and I can add an Eliptrac 400 horn Anyone want my speakers for 19 K euro He is mistaken, since the Jamboree isn't a Klipsch speaker. Greg Roberts (Volti Audio) says it's a better sounding speaker than the Khorn or Jubilee. http://www.voltiaudio.com/jamboree.shtml I have the plans for another of his speaker designs, but I've never had the funds or time to build them. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Looks like a copy of Dana Moores Jamboree. You are correct GH He has noted that in this quote And finally YES they look similar to Klipsh Jamboree and Jubilee but the similarities end on the photo. The drivers are different, both horns are different, magnets, diaphragms and whole crossover are different. [\quote]I can say that with my La Scala build - They also has deferent drivers, magnets, diaphragms and different crossovers and I can add an Eliptrac 400 horn Anyone want my speakers for 19 K euro He is mistaken, since the Jamboree isn't a Klipsch speaker. Greg Roberts (Volti Audio) says it's a better sounding speaker than the Khorn or Jubilee. http://www.voltiaudio.com/jamboree.shtml I have the plans for another of his speaker designs, but I've never had the funds or time to build them. Bruce Got to admire the Volti projects and speaker range Looks awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I have the plans for another of his speaker designs, but I've never had the funds or time to build them I would like to hear more about this design if you have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I look up the plans and get some info to you, Nick. I think it was an earlier design with a single 15. IIRC, it is the Ascent. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) A Euro Volti. Edited April 30, 2014 by CECAA850 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) for 19000 Euros I'd prefer to go for a Oris Swing or Volti Audio Vittora which both will absolutely sounds far better than what someone like lampizator who is "a speaker designer and is quite good at it" (!) might ever imagine. he says he has been designing speakers for 25 years but all his effort sums up to a speaker with an absolute replica of a Klipsch Jubilee bassbin with an ugly JBL 2360 on top of it! I think he should be rewarded an audio congressional medal of honor I don't know if someone with that level of skills call himself "speaker designer", what should someone like Siegfried Linkwitz call himself! He says one of his customer's "made them" (doesn't say "designed"), and desired to make them available for sale. So, he's partner and distributer. I think he only mentions his experience in the context of being able to evaluate their performance and sound. If you'll read the page where he describes himself, he has an impressive array of credentials. People here have been using the equivalent of the Vittoria for a long time for a lot less money -- and now with the availability of Dave and Al's Eliptrac 400, an even better top section is possible (for a lot less money). I agree that it looks like Dana's Jamboree. But if memory serves, I believe Dana was accused of lifting the design from someone else. Yes, Al removed the schematics because someone decided to change a couple of capacitor values by 10%, and then claimed the designs as their own. Edited April 30, 2014 by DeanG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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