Chris A Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) http://www.magnetophon.nl/index.html I believe the concept here is diffusion. "At Studio Magnetophon in Maastricht, the Netherlands, Bart Brouns has built a unique live room in a former grain factory, now repurposed as a cultural centre. The solid concrete walls and the recycling ethos that runs through the whole of the building meant an imaginative design approach was required. “There were four guiding principles: no parallel walls, lots of diffraction, lots of bass trapping, and last but not least, maximise the feel-good factor,” explains Bart. The wooden diffusers on the walls and ceiling were made from discarded shipping pallets. Structural beams were leftovers from the renovation of an ancient bridge nearby, and the bass traps used stuffing material from the local mattress factory. Bart used Room EQ Wizard with a Shure KSM141 mic and a Dynaudio BM6A monitor to plot waterfall graphs for the room. While the graphs show that the reverberation times are not perfectly even across the bass frequencies yet, he is very happy with the subjective sound of the room. “It is quite dry, but the little ambience there is sounds nice and neutral. I can mic a brass band with just overheads, and all I need to do in the mix is add some reverb. On the other hand, there is enough ambiance to make drums go ‘Bonham’ when I compress the room mics to death. Most of the people that played in my room commented on how comfortable it is to play in. That being said, I’m always looking at ways to improve the sound!'" Waterfall plots were used to tune the time and frequency domain responses of the live room at Magnetophon: There are some interesting demo FLAC files to download from this site. Chris Edited November 13, 2014 by Chris A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) I like it. Always knew those old Pallets would come in handy! Edited May 11, 2014 by minermark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 No candles allowed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 I just read an article about a fellow who lives in a hobbit whole, this must be what the inside looks like. I wonder if my wife would let me do that to the basement. I bet the sound is wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdave Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 This belongs in the power tools thread. Somebody got themselves a nail gun, then smoked crack. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdave Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yes. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Note: There is no crack thread. Perhaps we need one. This could also go in the who cares about WAF thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth2 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The "Ultimate Testosterone" award goes to the guy who convinces his wife that they really need to install this sound treatment in their living room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Needs one more board to dial it in right... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 since it's still a hard surface, wont that merely cause more complex reflections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I pine for the day my wife wood let me do that to our living room but it's plane knot happening. I don't have a sliver of a chance of getting her to oakay this. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 since it's still a hard surface, wont that merely cause more complex reflections? Yep! my thinkin exactly, of course there just as many holes for the sound to go through also, aint nothing like foam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The better title would be "Tweekers with a chop saw" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 aint nothing like foam. I think he's going for diffusion, not absorption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 aint nothing like foam. I think he's going for diffusion, not absorption. Well he is likely running Bose anyway...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 since it's still a hard surface, wont that merely cause more complex reflections? yes, that's half of how it works and diffraction is the other half. Some fake fig trees would work as well and look a lot more attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twk123 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 aint nothing like foam. I think he's going for diffusion, not absorption. From what I understand, proper diffusion comes from a determined pattern for the sound wave to bounce off rathat than a bunch of random wood angles. http://arqen.com/sound-diffusers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) You're saying that diffusion is a non-random process? The objective of diffusers has always been increased randomness - like increased entropy... Blackbird studio is one of the centerpieces in the D'Antonio presentation: it's about randomizing the incident sound into a diffuse set of reflections. Even the processes used to determine the set of reflections for this application are "large prime numbers"--as in using the largest prime that you can to initialize a random number generator... Chris Edited November 13, 2014 by Chris A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdave Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You're saying that diffusion is a non-random process? The objective of diffusers has always been increased randomness - like increased entropy... Blackbird studio is one of the centerpieces in the D'Antonio presentation: it's about randomizing the incident sound into a diffuse set of reflections. Even the processes used to determine the set of reflections for this application are "large prime numbers"--as in using the largest prime that you can to initialize a random number generator... Chris Wondering how much wood I would need to do my HT walls and ceiling this way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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