absolve2525 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) I understand that BMS is highly recommended, but I've heard good things about the latest Eminence Ti large format drivers also. I'm using K-horns with Crites 4500 crossovers on Vtrac horns and Beyma Cp 25 tweeters. I'd love to find a bargain, obviously. Thanks for suggestions! Edited August 30, 2014 by absolve2525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Tad 4001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 TAD 4001,,4002,,4003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorjen Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 This.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Bob Crites recommends this one on K-402 horns: http://www.usspeaker.com/Faital%20Pro%20HF200-1.htm I've heard the dual-diaphragm BMS compression driver (as in using your midrange horn as a 2-way loudspeaker instead of 3-way that you have now) - and I wasn't impressed: YMMV. I do recommend EQing it properly if you use them: https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/74255-2-tractrix-wood-horn-bms-4590-listen/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'm very happy with the Beyma CP750Ti drivers bolted to EV 9040 horns. Make a very good 2-way system, crossed at 1Khz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsear Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's a pair of vintage JBL 2485j's in the forum garage sale right now. Check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 http://www.usspeaker...Pro HF200-1.htm I second that, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 There's a pair of vintage JBL 2485j's in the forum garage sale right now. Check them out. Thats not a bad deal at all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) I've access to BMS compression drivers for ~50% off the retail price. Coax 4592ND is a giant stride and a real point source but there is a problem. if you want to cross them about 300hz and use their potential in this areas, you have to use large horns. large horns are less effective when freq. goes up. so you'll lose high frequency. you'll also lose dispersion control in hf region more easier than a dedicated tweeter. BMS 4592ND-MID is something different. every accurate sound with good timbre in the right horn. a tweeter with controlled directivity if placed time aligned will do the job. I'd use Beyma CP-25s with constant directivity horn, of the best horn tweets I've ever heard. BMS CDs are worth every penny. TAD with beryllium is what I'd like to hear and compare with BMS. Edited August 31, 2014 by Arash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) The coax version supposedly doesn't sound its best with the stock network they supply, but then, it's designed for commercial applications. Someone designed a good filter section for that transition, and if you're not using it, you probably aren't going to be impressed. Those who have actually tried both ways, prefer the 4592-MID with a separate tweeter. Edited August 31, 2014 by DeanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 The coax version supposedly doesn't sound it's best with the stock network they supply, but then, it's designed for commercial applications. Someone designed a good filter section for that transition, and if you're not using it, you probably aren't going to be impressed. Those who have actually tried both ways, prefer the 4592-MID with a separate tweeter. That what I have in my setup, the 4592-Mid 16ohm version with Fostex tweeters time aligned just awesome!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolve2525 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the input! I'm currently using K55M and EV 2inch adapters. How big of an impact does the high quality 2inch driver make? I understand Be drivers are great, owning some Yamaha speakers that feature them. I'll have to wait for TAD, too expensive. I like metal diaphragms, hence my interest in the Eminence also. I'm curious about the BMS, what material do they use? I understand the phenolic drivers have a warmth to the sound. Is this lack of detail? Argh I wish I could hear them first hand! Qualitative comparisons are greatly appreciated. Edited August 31, 2014 by absolve2525 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 There is no loss of detail using the BMS drivers they are flat out good!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longdrive03 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Has anyone tried the EV ND6X? I've got access to some and they look like they would work 500Hz up. Supposed to sound great. Anyone ever used these? DJK probably knows all about them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannegard1 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I use bms 4591 16ohm and jbl 2404h and gregs v track horns use alk crossovers -12db settings what can sound better then that i hope dean have my new crossover ready to go to sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 They are on the bench. 12dB down for normal listening levels, 15dB down if you like to crank it. The network will be set up so that you have a choice between those two settings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannegard1 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Dean thats fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I am using EV DH1a drivers in my JBL2360a horns and they sound great... Might be worth a try in your setup as they are around $100 used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Thanks for the input! I'm currently using K55M and EV 2inch adapters. How big of an impact does the high quality 2inch driver make? The biggest difference I noticed immediately was the total absence of strain; it has a very "relaxed sound" especially with vocals. I do not play loud, so this difference does not come from the 2 inch drivers beeing capable of higher power-handling. Nico 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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