Mike Lindsey Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I've got some out of town friends coming to my house over the winter holidays to play a Christmas party. They are bringing a Behringer XENYX 1202FX mixer, 2 mics, Keyboard and Guitar, along with all the 1/4" cables. I have a couple of amps and a pair of KP-201 speakers and told them we could use them with their gear, but they are not so sure. From looking at the mixer I see some main outs that should be able to feed my tube amp using a 1/4" to rca adapter, and then running rca's into the amp. I could then run speaker wire from the amp to the KP-201's. Besides the VRD's I have a Samson amp which has 1/4" inputs, but wouldn't the VRD's sound better? I would like to think so. Any help would be appreciated here if I am missing something. Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I have no idea but I wanna be at that party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Instead of payment, I'm flying them down from Pittsburgh and putting them up for 3 days. Sounds pretty fair to me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 You should be able to connect the control room or phones out to your amp and attenuate it separately from the master. You can use the Tape out, but it would be fixed voltage, so you would need an integrated amp or at least one with a gain adjustment to volume up and down. I would assume they would be taking up the Main out and they must have a reason they cannot share that. That would be ideal. You would daisy chain off their amps and into yours if they have a parallel jack (like an xlr and a 1/4 beside eachother). In any event, I think there are many many ways to skin that cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 They are not using the main out and there are no amplifiers, just the mixer mentioned above. Wouldn't the mixer be acting as a preamp and could control the volume when sending the signal to my amp via the main outs? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't the mixer be acting as a preamp and could control the volume when sending the signal to my amp via the main outs? Absolutely. Are they mostly thinking they don't like the idea of the VRDs? How large a space are you talking about? The VRDs should sound really good with the speakers you are using. I wouldn't exactly call the Behringer a 'pro' mixer. It should, though, provide enough gain to drive the VRDs. They might just decide to haul a tube amp around. Bruce Edited October 1, 2014 by Marvel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 XENYX 1202FX http://www.behringer.com/assets/1202FX_P0571_S_EN.pdf Spec sheet says all outputs are unbalanced. You should have no problems going straight into RCA jacks on your amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ok cool. I want to make sure there will be no harm to the vrd's , but also want to make sure the vrd's can provide enough power. The only other amp I have is a Samson S700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 XENYX 1202FX http://www.behringer.com/assets/1202FX_P0571_S_EN.pdf Spec sheet says all outputs are unbalanced. You should have no problems going straight into RCA jacks on your amp. Yes they are unbalanced, but I never realized adapting unbalanced xlr to rca would have any effect harmful or otherwise. I do it all the time, but not with expensive NOSvalves stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yeah, makes me a little nervous there. Will try first with the Samson, even though it has 1/4" inputs. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Ok, nothing wrong with being careful with expensive equipment. But unbalanced is unbalanced. Signal coming out of mixer will be single ended and referenced to the chassis of the mixer. And your cable through the shield will tie the chassis of your VRD amp to the chassis of the mixer and the signal will be on the tip of your RCA plug. If this does not work then Behringer is not being truthful saying the output is unbalanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Several times, I used my Dynaco ST70 for powering stage monitors for the choir at one of the churches I attended. Worked great (ok, it served its purpose ). The feed was coming out of a 16 channel mixer. The VRDs should sound superb for the use. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted October 3, 2014 Author Share Posted October 3, 2014 Thanks guys! I'm looking forward to hearing the kp-201's thru the vrd's with live music. I could also hookup the cornscala's, which might be overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I could also hookup the cornscala's, which might be overkill. Not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuisis Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I'm from Pittsburgh, what is the group?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 I'm from Pittsburgh, what is the group?? Just a couple of guys that have been in many bands over the last 48 years. They both sing great harmony's and do a lot of Eagles, Jackson Brown, CSNY, Elton John, and that sort of thing. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 you going to do a dry run? to make sure everything works? Im with cecca, I want to be at the party too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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