BigStewMan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 i think i guessed correctly … what do i win? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 So do the Reference Premiere Wireless bookshelves also have rear-firing ports, non-removable bases, and no mounting hardware? Based on what I've seen so far, all of the new bookshelf speakers just don't look suitable for wall mounting. To me, that's a serious oversight, especially for the wireless system, where the intent is clearly for the bookshelf speakers to be used as surrounds. I'm really not trying to be a killjoy, but in the past there were suitable alternatives if one didn't want to use WDST speakers as surrounds. I'm just not seeing that with the Reference Premiere line. What is Klipsch's intent here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2015 Author Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think what you are referring to here is an Atmos add-on, that they have wall-mounted in the booth to give a different look at it. Gotcha. Thx for clarifying Chad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) So do the Reference Premiere Wireless bookshelves also have rear-firing ports, non-removable bases, and no mounting hardware? Based on what I've seen so far, all of the new bookshelf speakers just don't look suitable for wall mounting. To me, that's a serious oversight, especially for the wireless system, where the intent is clearly for the bookshelf speakers to be used as surrounds. I don't see the problem. Why not put bookshelf speakers on a.......bookshelf? Edited January 8, 2015 by wvu80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKBI Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Those Dolby Atmos speakers that one of you guys posted, are they stand alone? Martin Pedersen Denmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 How are the WiSA Speakers Powered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 How are the WiSA Speakers Powered?internally amplified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Electric Power? From WiSA website "plug them into AC power"... Edited January 8, 2015 by Sancho Panza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) So do the Reference Premiere Wireless bookshelves also have rear-firing ports, non-removable bases, and no mounting hardware? Based on what I've seen so far, all of the new bookshelf speakers just don't look suitable for wall mounting. To me, that's a serious oversight, especially for the wireless system, where the intent is clearly for the bookshelf speakers to be used as surrounds. I don't see the problem. Why not put bookshelf speakers on a.......bookshelf? I assume you're not just being argumentative, so I'll respond...What if I want to use these bookshelf speakers as, say, front heights in an Atmos installation? They'd need to be aimed down at the MLP and having to set the speakers on actual bookshelves won't work. Same thing when using them as traditional surrounds where room limitations necessitate them being mounted higher than ear-level. They'll need to aimed downward and that ain't happening if forced to use a "real" bookshelf for mounting. Not to mention the fact that, in most installations, having to hang little shelves all over the room just to set surround speakers on is, well, ghetto. This isn't even considering the fact that the rear-facing ports make near-wall placement far less than optimal. The Reference II bookshelves had front-firing ports and wall-mounting hardware. Someone at Klipsch thought it was important that they be able to be wall-mounted, so I'm not just pulling these ideas out of my a$$. The old Reference II bookshelves were perfectly acceptable substitutes if one wanted to use them in place of traditional WDST surrounds. That simply isn't the case with the Reference Premiere "monitors" -- your options are far, far more limited. These trade-offs must've been weighed by Kllipsch's engineers when they were designing the Reference Premiere monitors. I'm just curious to know what Klipsch's line of thought was here when removing the options for near- or on-wall mounting. Edited January 8, 2015 by Schwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 How are they powered? They got a good deal on amps from the guys company that made the Sub 10 and Sub 12 amps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 ^^^ LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2015 Author Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2015 If they are internally powered (which I'm guessing they are), they should have a power cord that will need to be plugged in. Not sure that's easy to make it look clean for surrounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Limits placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Guess they're not wireless after all. You now have a choice of seeing a speaker wire or a power cord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2015 Author Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2015 That was pretty funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Chad Posted January 8, 2015 Administrators Share Posted January 8, 2015 Each speaker has a power cord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWorm Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I guess the facts that the new Reference Premiere bookshelf speakers are rear-ported, lack wall-mounting hardware, and have a (presumably) non-removable plinth base rules them out for use as wall-mounted surrounds, huh? I prefer the WDST surrounds myself, but those particular RP bookshelf design choices might alienate that segment of folks who prefer to use monopole speakers for surrounds. And what's the thinking behind the slight upward angle the bookshelves seem to have? The RP-150M have wall mount hardware on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy W Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) A few clarifications, and I think Chad has already answered a few... Yes, the bookshelf RP series (we call them M for monitor) is rear ported. Yes, they have wall mounting hardware. Yes, the plinth (the platform/base thingy) is "removable" but you don't want to. It is attached with 4 wood screws, so it would leave holes -- not a huge deal; and I'm not sure of the exact production tolerances, but the screws are "very close" to full depth of the cabinet wall thickness. I couldnt poke a wire through the one I just looked at, YMMV. Also, the plinth, along with the wall mounting bracket, spaces the speaker off the wall in order to let the port work. Yes, the baffle of the monitors of the RP series is tilted back... so are the towers. The Staidum-esque/Heritage-esque powered speakers are very much prototypes - concept development if you will, and knowing what might be inside, a pair will be more expensive than a Stadium. Yes, the angled baffle speaker lying on its back is part of the Atmos lineup - the "add-on" Atmos speaker, still in development and undergoing Dolby testing/approval. However, I also see it being well-suited as a side/rear surround as well. Edited January 8, 2015 by Andy W 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I guess the facts that the new Reference Premiere bookshelf speakers are rear-ported, lack wall-mounting hardware, and have a (presumably) non-removable plinth base rules them out for use as wall-mounted surrounds, huh? I prefer the WDST surrounds myself, but those particular RP bookshelf design choices might alienate that segment of folks who prefer to use monopole speakers for surrounds. And what's the thinking behind the slight upward angle the bookshelves seem to have? The RP-150M have wall mount hardware on them. Dang, I didn't notice that! That wall mount, coupled with the fact that the speaker plinth actually puts some space between the speaker and the wall so the port can function, pretty much answers the concerns I had. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) Has anyone ever answered the ? Why are bookshelf speakers tilted upward? Edited January 8, 2015 by Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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