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Vintage 1951 Electro Voice Patrician IV for sale bo


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Andrea, rather than blowing smoke in everyone's eyes yet again, all it takes to figure out exactly what you have is removing two or three simple panels.

 

Since you kindly posted the last photo, if you gently pry out the front facade, the rectangle frame that the pisces and metal grille are attached to, we all will be able to see the mid reentrant drivers and the tweeter. You can see the mark in the upper right corner, as you face the speaker, where it probably has been done before. The finish is different.

 

Removing the doghouse cover plate screws at the mid bottom of the front will reveal the woofer face.

 

Removing the back of the cab, if it is enclosed by a single batwing, will give you access to see the rear of the EV 18WK.

 

I have had three Patricians and still have two Georgians in the garage. They all have the standard EV drivers for the model and make of speaker. The Naces were no different than anyone else that could afford to buy this speaker, even back in the day. Electrovoice did not make anything outside their published catalog, so imagining something special and exotic made by the factory is a pipe dream...and due to the nature of the front grille covering the entire front facade, this i=undoubtably is your speaker permutation, best guessing available.http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/electro_vo_patrician_4_way_speaker.html

 

If you have the entire enclosed batwing back, then pulling that off allows you to pull the entire utility speaker out without going through the front. if you have the exposed back without the final completed horn, then most likely you will need to go through the front. Any speaker historian who has played with EVs before will recognize the right manner of access. But you have not been too endearing to them, claiming it to be an 800 from 1951, or now a special one off built exclusively for the Naces. The truth is the 1950s EV was a lesser speaker to the KHorn, and value wise is not a good sound bargain.

 

I just sold the stereo pair of Georgians for a tick under a grand. Great bass, and lacking almost everywhere else, with the same likely drivers you have, excepting the 15WK for the 18WK.

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Andrea, rather than blowing smoke in everyone's eyes yet again

 

so imagining something special and exotic made by the factory is a pipe dream.

 

Any speaker historian who has played with EVs before will recognize the right manner of access. But you have not been too endearing to them, claiming it to be an 800 from 1951, or now a special one off built exclusively for the Naces. The truth is the 1950s EV was a lesser speaker to the KHorn, and value wise is not a good sound bargain.
 

 

Is there some overwhelmingly compelling reason why you would need to make comments like this?  I don't get it.  This lady has been nothing but extremely nice, and obviously is looking for help on an item that she initially knows little about, but is trying to learn....We all have mis-identified something in the past, so what?  These comments are not helpful.  Other parts of your text may be, but including these negative, disparaging statements just degrades the rest of your supposed contribution.  Lighten up.

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SheltieDave, thank you for the information on exactly how to safely remove the panels. I was hoping to get someone who is more familiar to do it. But, I can do at least the front. It is in storage and I am not strong enough to move it to get to the back, or turn in on its side to get to the bottom, as was previously suggested. I truly did not know that it was a Patrician IV vs VIII. I'm sure my pipe dream will probably be deflated once we see what is in it. All the best, Andrea

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Jimbo, the four people I asked in the Phoenix area all declined to help her, after reading the thread. And they are nice people, but they catch the same vibe. This speaker will sell itself, without any upselling, if the facts are presented properly.

 

Hire a carpenter, pay $50, and she would have the answer and photos inside ten minutes.

 

I know a few regional EV freaks, and a couple more Asian collectors, that would like to have this speaker, as long as it is a known commodity. Two of the more significant marketing trapdoors are not being clear on what you are selling, and any hint of dissembling. I wish Andrea well selling her Patrician 800.

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Thanks Sheltie Dave. I wish I had an 800! I'm not sure what vibe you are talking about. I can tell you, I wouldn't hire just a carpenter to open it. I'd prefer to do it myself than to go that route. The risk of them not knowing how fragile this may be would scare me. Can you please give me contact names and numbers and allow me to speak to the locals? I'm not the best at communicating via typing, although I try my best. If I could change the title to this thread to Patrician IV, I would. I like the full running history, so I'd prefer to not start another. I grew up listening to this, not being a collector. So, please have a little patience as I learn from all of you, work full time, take care of my family (my son rolled his vehicle last weekend when he changed lanes into a blind spot and I am blessed he walked out OK), and so on. In addition, storage is about 20 miles away from me. What are the exact tools I should bring with me when I go? Thanks again, Andrea

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Andrea, you can change the title.  Go to your original post, and click inside the main text box.  On the bottom there will be an "Edit" selection that becomes active (because it's yours).  You will then see a selection for "Use Full Editor"....select that, and you will then be placed in your original post and you can change the title.

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Also, could you get your son and/or a couple of his friends to go with you to the storage space to help you out?  Or, surely you must know someone who knew about this speaker/system/setup, and would be willing to assist you?  No sense in trying to struggle to do it alone....While you're there, take lots and lots and lots more photos....

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Thanks! I will try to change it right now. I am using Tapatalk for the forum. So, if it doesn't work, I'll go into my laptop into the klipsch forum to do it. Thank you! As for Sam, remember, this is the boy who made a driving mistake. Lol. Yes, great idea. Sadly, I know no-one living who knew about this speaker. My folks are both gone. But, remember, no - one ever opened that second built in cabinet that surrounded it, as far as I can remember, until I did a couple years ago. So, no - one knew what was back there. We always talked about the components we did know about. But, even then, I don't know any specialist for the juke box and reel to reel either. Besides a flat and Phillips, and a hammer, could someone please tell me what I should take to storage. You bet, I will take a lot of photos. I'll post a few of the other equipment for fun. Thanks again Jim!

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I'm glad your son was ok, scary stuff.

the Jeep patriot is such a tough vehicle -but is known to roll over -that's why guys put wide tires on these for trail rides -

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It's a Liberty. 2011 40k. No extra wide tires. Airbags did not deploy. Not sure if that was right or wrong. But, he walked (crawled) out of there fairly unscathed. Thank goodness he automatically wears his belt! Thanks Ceptorman. Yes, it was the most frightening moments in my life until I saw and hugged him.

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It's a Liberty. 2011 40k. No extra wide tires. Airbags did not deploy. Not sure if that was right or wrong. But, he walked (crawled) out of there fairly unscathed. Thank goodness he automatically wears his belt! Thanks Ceptorman. Yes, it was the most frightening moments in my life until I saw and hugged him.

I stand corrected - yes - the jeep liberty - first time a rollover was actually written was in 2001  - http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/jeep-rollover-proves-hard-understand

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