Rivernuggets Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, oldtimer said: it still has to be dealt with, as does pollution +1 Whether humans are affecting the environment less or more, it's better to be preventive and on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, wvu80 said: I was talking about belief. You just had to bring up alternative facts... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I don't know how some of you guys sleep at night… Your constant denial of things happening in this world and in this country is just beyond belief to me. Maybe the bottom line is that especially in the case of global warming, that deep down you really don't care, mainly because you'll never live long enough to see the serious results. Your denial will come back to bite you in the *** when your grandchildren are as old as you are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Getting warmer for 3 years strait. It's been in the 50s and 60s more often than not here all of January and February, which isn't normal. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I agree...all I know is....When I was younger most of the dinosaurs were gone .....but it sure seemed colder George, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 If you have 10 minutes of free time: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 If you have 10 minutes of free time: No, sorry, I have to go warm up my car for an hour before I go to work… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: No, sorry, I have to go warm up my car for an hour before I go to work… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Nice ride, Fred. Where's Barney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Nice ride, Fred. Where's Barney?He's out back burning trash in his burn barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, mungkiman said: You just had to bring up alternative facts... Great turn of phrase! Can I steal that from you? It will come in handy in "discussions" with my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Posted just now · Report post 1 hour ago, mungkiman said: You just had to bring up alternative facts... Great turn of phrase! Can I steal that from you? It will come in handy in "discussions" with my wife. Almost surprised you haven't heard of them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, jimjimbo said: Maybe the bottom line is that especially in the case of global warming, that deep down you really don't care, Oh, I don't think that's quite true. Maybe some of us have explored more facts than you have and have come to a different conclusion. You never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 "According to a new U.N. report, the global warming outlook is much worse than originally predicted. Which is pretty bad when they originally predicted it would destroy the planet." --Jay Leno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, wvu80 said: Oh, I don't think that's quite true. Maybe some of us have explored more facts than you have and have come to a different conclusion. You never know. How do you feel about coal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, mungkiman said: How do you feel about coal? I'm from West Virginia, a coal state as you may know. We have a balanced budget law here so we stay pretty even every year. Thanks to Pres Obama tightening up standards for coal fired power plants, we have had several go out of business. That killed the coal mines and the rail roads in our area, and now we have a $195 million deficit in this year alone, and we haven't gotten to FY 2017 yet. It's a disaster for West Virginia. That being said, I'm not a big fan of coal. I'd like to see more hydro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted February 9, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 2/28/2015 at 6:15 PM, Mallette said: Agreed. But so futile. We need millions of acres returned to nature. When it comes to the carbon issue nobody points out that it has been the great forests of the earth that handled that for eons. They are functionally gone. Not surprising that, like a human body with no pancreas and blood sugar run amoke killing it, carbon dioxide is building up with nothing to control it. Yes, I am re-arranging the deck chairs on Titanic. Most who hear that don't realize it was the right thing to do. At least it allowed that person a since of order in the face of that which they could in no way alter. Dave Actually, it's the oceans (70%) with rain forests contributing 28%. If you killed all of the rain forests it would take eons to kill the entire planet. If the oceans tip, the planet would be dead in less than a decade, whether there are forests or not. A slow miserable death. The entire planet, except for plants, with COPD. The Mongols could probably ride it out, along with other peoples who are born and raised above 10,000 feet. They could move lower after other people people died off. The oceans are warming, I think I posted the data on that about a year ago in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: Actually, it's the oceans (70%) with rain forests contributing 28%. If you killed all of the rain forests it would take eons to kill the entire planet. If the oceans tip, the planet would be dead in less than a decade, whether there are forests or not. Crikey, barely remember that post or thread. However, your math doesn't add up. You suggest the planet dies if the oceans tip and it happens in a decade as they contribute twice as much as forests, but if the forests die instead of the assumed 2 decades based on the oceans it is eons? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mallette said: Crikey, barely remember that post or thread. However, your math doesn't add up. You suggest the planet dies if the oceans tip and it happens in a decade as they contribute twice as much as forests, but if the forests die instead of the assume 2 decades base on that it is eons? Dave Was he talking about food? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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