mike stehr Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Edit: You had to roll that on there...just a drop-cloth, no protection from overspray, and hash marks from where the roller hit the drop-cloth. Yep, rolled it. Roller hit the drop cloth, hacked me off as my roller picked up some trash that I subsequently had to pick out of the wet paint. I hate that when that happens... Should have asked in the other post, but what type of paint did you use? Duratex? Latex? Thanks, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan611 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Meh. Waiting on the BIG Wrecker... Dave Here you GO. This is about the baddest thing you could build. It has no business in a home. I had the pleasure of hearing 2 of those Othorns with 2 Ghorns. The most insane bass I've ever experienced. Nothing, nothing has even come close. He has the Othorns starting around 25hz going down to 12ish hz I believe, the Ghorns do everything above 25hz. Great looking build, as usual. How does it sound? Edited February 23, 2015 by Rowan611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxr dad Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I need a sub that size. Great job. Sorry Derrick, not for sale. LOL. I think after a little back therapy, Carl will be good for round 2!!! The Birch was approx. $45.00 per sheet. I picked it up so there was no delivery fees. I really like the shape of the sub. Its no that big of footprint if you think about it. At least in my warped world anyway. LOL. Oh Sheit, it rattled the unattached house????? Oh boy, this is going to be interesting! Kinda reminds me of the first time I bought BB gun for my son and no matter what rules you lay down, or how strict you are, there always seems to be some broken glass huh? I bet no matter how careful I am, I beleive there will be some broken glass with this thing too! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxr dad Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 OK, time to fire it up. The amp is a Crown XLS 602D which we'll bridge to 1200 watts @ 8Homs. The driver is a dual 4 Ohm voice coil bought specifically to have a series wired load of 8 Ohms. To bridge the amp you have to modify the input XLR's so that channel 2 has the + and - reversed. The polarity is only reversed on that channel however. I double checked all the wiring from the CD player to the driver, fired it up and...............nothing. It seems that when you bridge the amp you need more voltage to drive the amp than normal consumer level electronics provides. It's odd though as unbridged, consumer level products drive the amp just fine. Luckily I had an Art Cleanbox, put it in the source line and we were up and running. I ran sine waves from 17 to 65Hz and this thing has GOBS of output. My garage is detached from the house yet things were shaking inside the house! My wife felt it all the way in the back of the house as well. Ron should be really happy with it as it will be replacing a Sub 12. I went ahead and called him to give him the heads up that he'll need a Cleanbox as well. Thanks for looking! That looks fantastic Carl. I'm speechless other than to say THANKS. I feel like I should be passing out cigars to everybody for the arrival of the new baby. (Wipes eyes like new dad). My poor ol Sub 12 has no idea whats fixing to happen to it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Should have asked in the other post, but what type of paint did you use? Duratex? Latex? Black semi gloss Latex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Great looking build, as usual. How does it sound? it sounded fantastic for the short time I had it up and running. FUBAR alert!!!!! I thought the driver was rated at 1500 watts RMS as I was running 1200 to it and thought I was safe. Come to find out, it was a 500 RMS driver and I let the magic smoke out of it. It was odd because it happened after 20 seconds and just with music so I may have had a marginal driver as well. We'll either unbridge the amp and run one channel with the same driver or find something that will handle the higher wattage. I'm doing some research today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan611 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) How about a Bash 500 plate amp off Parts Express for $200? Edited February 23, 2015 by Rowan611 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 How about a Bash 500 plate amp off Parts Express for $200? That would work great but Ron has an amp already and we're trying to use it. That's a great price though, are they on sale now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan611 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Not sure. Just saw that price last night while I was researching my Bash 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Looks like $50.00 off the regular price. I've had one for several years, it's a great sub amp. It's wattage is rated at 4 Ohms and the Alpine is a dual 4 Ohm driver, it wouldn't work for us anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhound Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Awesomeness right there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Great looking build, as usual. How does it sound? it sounded fantastic for the short time I had it up and running. FUBAR alert!!!!! I thought the driver was rated at 1500 watts RMS as I was running 1200 to it and thought I was safe. Come to find out, it was a 500 RMS driver and I let the magic smoke out of it. It was odd because it happened after 20 seconds and just with music so I may have had a marginal driver as well. We'll either unbridge the amp and run one channel with the same driver or find something that will handle the higher wattage. I'm doing some research today. Bummer! Box don't blow no mo. So the 1500W was a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 So the 1500W was a typo? The driver was 1500 peak, not RMS. They can write, I can't read evidently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I gotta tell you though, I didn't think it was possible with the weight of that thing but that driver was literally rocking the box. It was incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Should have asked in the other post, but what type of paint did you use? Duratex? Latex? Black semi gloss Latex. Thanks Carl. I had pretty much determined that from reviewing your past threads with respect to subwoofer enclosure/cabinets. You build some awesome subwoofers. The Duratex seems like a nice product. But I'm a little short, and latex is cheaper. I noticed one can get the Duratex kit direct from the site with free shipping. $24.95 or some such...I dunno if PE charges shipping with Duratex. Seems the same thing. You get a bag of it with a roller. Indeed, bummer about frappin' the driver. Edited February 23, 2015 by mike stehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 I had pretty much determined that from reviewing your past threads with respect to subwoofer enclosure/cabinets. You build some awesome subwoofers. The Duratex seems like a nice product. But I'm a little short, and latex is cheaper. I've used Duratex on 2 builds that I've posted build threads on. The sub for my son's truck and the sub they Eric sent me the two 12" drivers for. That stuff goes a long way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sorry to hear about the busted driver. It should be under warranty so not a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Sorry to hear about the busted driver. It should be under warranty so not a big problem. We're going to check on it but most sub manufacturers won't warranty burned voice coils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Great looking build, as usual. How does it sound? it sounded fantastic for the short time I had it up and running. FUBAR alert!!!!! I thought the driver was rated at 1500 watts RMS as I was running 1200 to it and thought I was safe. Come to find out, it was a 500 RMS driver and I let the magic smoke out of it. It was odd because it happened after 20 seconds and just with music so I may have had a marginal driver as well. We'll either unbridge the amp and run one channel with the same driver or find something that will handle the higher wattage. I'm doing some research today. You've been busy, and I had some time, so I did some digging for you. Here is the list of drivers lilmike listed. Bold have been tested, non-bold have the right TS specs. They are listed from most RMS to least, and the RMS is listed. The TC LMS-R looks best to me due to it's high voltage capacity and low FS; however, it has not been tested. TC Sounds LMS5400 15 - 2000 RMS - NO LONGER SOLD Fi Q 15 - 1500 RMS - http://store.ficaraudio.com/q15/ - $324 Sundown Zv3 15 - 1500 RMS - http://www.emfcaraudio.com/sundown-audio-zv3-15-dual-1/ - $539 Kicker 2010 CVX 154 - 1000 RMS - about $400 Kicker 2010 CVX 152 - 1000 RMS - about $400 TC Sounds LMS-R 15 - 1000 RMS - http://www.parts-express.com/tc-sounds-lms-r-15-dvc-subwoofer--293-662 - about $400 AE AV15H D4 - 1000 RMS - NO LONGER SOLD Stereo Integrity HT15D2 - 600 RMS - NO LONGER SOLD Stereo Integrity HT15D4 - 600 RMS - NO LONGER SOLD Eminence Lab15 - 600 RMS - http://www.parts-express.com/eminence-lab-15-15-pro-audio-subwoofer-speaker--290-575 - $285 Alpine SWS-15D2 - 500 RMS - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-YY6l1Kv7eWb/p_500SWS15D4/Alpine-SWS-15D4.html - $230 Alpine SWS-15D4 - 500 RMS - http://www.crutchfield.com/S-T5CaqcVSRG6/p_500SWS15D2/Alpine-SWS-15D2.html - $230 Edited February 24, 2015 by mustang guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Thanks, the biggest problem is finding a driver that will handle the wattage of the Crown and have a final impedance of 8 Ohms. I spent all day e-mailing between Lil Mike and Nick at Ficar. Ficar is fixing me up with a custom built dual 4 Ohm Q for this box. It'll laugh at the Crown. This thing will be INSANE. Hopefully I'll have it in a couple weeks. Edited February 24, 2015 by CECAA850 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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