ryanm84 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I don't currently have a dedicated theater room, but I've recently purchased a new home as we relocate back to the Phoenix area. The home has a theater room. Dimensions are 11' wide and 19' deep. The previous homeowner had the room added with an addition to the house a few years ago. There are a few platforms up where they had seating. One 3 pack of seats was left in the house so you get an idea of what's going on. They took the projector and I don't recall what was there when I toured the house. There are no windows and a couple different light options in the room (can lights in a couple zones and rope lighting under the platforms). Also, the screen measures 49" tall by 88" wide. I'm sure they simply filled the space between the built ins with as much screen as possible. I have none of the components to complete the room and currently have no budget. What I'm wondering first is about the screen dimensions (what can I expect if I change nothing, how odd is this size? etc.) Also, ideal distance for the projector from the screen. I forgot to measure how far away the connections are, but I'll be at the house in a few days to do some painting, cleaning, etc. I have not even begun to think of what equipment to get, but it's basically a blank slate so speakers and AVR to pair up with my Oppo is my starting point. I'll have to figure a budget later, but for now any opinions on the above are super helpful. Thanks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) thats at least a grand for the chairs. they left the screen also ? Edited March 27, 2015 by Budman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Those pictures I took this week while there. The chairs, screen and movie posters thrown in. I think they would have left all 3 rows had I asked, but I had them fix some things instead so they didn't want to make it too sweet a deal. I do not know the screen material. I felt it and don't know enough about screen material to even guess. Seemed ok though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven1963 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I'm just getting into this myself so I'll be curious so read what the seasoned vets say. That looks like a 16x9 screen, which is fairly standard, I think. Depending on what type, it could be worth a bit of cash. And since the room is light-controlled you could put pretty much any projector in there and get a good picture. I'm looking at the Epson 8050ub. And distance from the screen is, I think, somewhat irrelevant with that projector or any other that has a magnify (or is it zoom?) ability. Like I said, I'm just getting into this myself so I could be wrong on a detail here or there. EDIT: no hdmi cable hanging down so I imagine whatever projector was there wasn't a late model. Which makes me think the screen isn't either. Edited March 27, 2015 by Steven1963 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 27, 2015 Moderators Share Posted March 27, 2015 Take a look at my LaScala Trio video in my signature. Your room size is similar to mine. My room is 13' x 19'. Two rows of seating. Current screen is 103" (8' wide) in 2.35:1 aspect ratio but upgrading to a 150" screen (12' wide). I can post more later this evening but it may give you some ideas for your room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 i helped my son install his 120" screen and projector and he put it 11' feet from the screen. the room is 22' deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 So nice to have a somewhat turnkey dedicated room. Looks like they had a component connected PJ from the looks of the cables. Good news is you can use those to pull an HDMI cable through. Here's a calculator you can use to figure what PJ will work with a given throw distance. http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Congrats on the new home and some good freebies. Consider some in-ceiling and maybe some in-wall speakers. I dont see a lot of room for big floor standers. An IB sub may also be a good option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yes I noticed the connections first thing because you have to duck under them-no hdmi. But I might be able to snake hdmi thru the space as it was added and its a flat roof above. Maybe. I'll be looking in a lot more detail when I'm there next. I'm not sure what to look for in the screen. I'm not expecting to get really crazy with this project (uh huh, sure you're not!) and I'm planning on going slow (again, sure you are) but I do want to make sure that whatever I do is as quality and scalable for future use. HDMI is my first project. Any suggestions on the screen itself? How to tell good from bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Congrats on the new home and some good freebies. Consider some in-ceiling and maybe some in-wall speakers. I dont see a lot of room for big floor standers. An IB sub may also be a good option. Or flip it 180 and you have 2 nice corners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yeah definitely no room for free standers. There are wall mounted speaker locations in the back of the room. 5.1 should be no problem however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Considering I don't yet have a home for my corns, this might be it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven1963 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Should be a brand name in one of the corners of the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Will check it out to see if there is a name. The black frame surround seems DIY to me. So I guess it could be fit to size. Thanks for the inputs so far. The calculator will come in handy. I'm guessing its at least 14 feet back from the screen - I was on the upper platform looking at the connection. I'm also hoping that the component cable can slide freely thru the space above so that it can be used to pull HDMI. I've lived in PHX before and know how shoddy some construction can be. If lucky this isn't snaked thru the rafters above making it difficult to swap out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Your screen is just very slightly wider than 16 x 9 (which is 1.78:1 .... yours is 1.796:1). Modern TV image shapes (Aspect Ratios, or ARs) are usually 1.78:1, and movies headed to commercial movie theaters are usually 1.85:1 or wider -- Panavision and some Super 35 are 2.39:1 ... nicknamed "2.4:1" ... the oldest Panavision and CinemaScope were 2.35:1 -- unless you count very early CinemaScope -- and the madness doesn't stop there. I think I counted 12 Aspect Ratios when I had nothing better to do. If you intend to replace the screen eventually, read the following. If not, don't. We have a 2.35:1 screen, and most true wide screen movies (2.2:1 or wider) fit just fine. On this screen, either 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 are full height, but don't come all the way to the sides (just like in the better commercial movie houses) ... when switching to a wider format, which our projector handles at the push of a button, and a slight re-focus) the picture is both wider and of greater area, and just as high as 1.85/1.78, instead of becoming smaller (not as high) as in "letterbox" on a conventional TV. This is in keeping with the filmmakers' intentions -- when they go to a wider image, they expect it to be bigger! Our screen is an acoustically transparent (or AT) screen by Semour, and we love it. Our center channel is behind the screen. There is only about 1 dB of roll-off at the very top of the frequency spectrum, and Audyssey compensates for that very well. This even though our dealer pointed out that "acoustically transparent" is a term like "clean coal." The screen is 130" wide and 55.3" high. It is not too big for viewers 12 feet away, and we can't see the fabric weave at all. Someday, you could replace your current screen with an bigger electric roll down AT screen (by Semour?) that comes down just in front of your shelves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Awesome info Gary. Thanks. I've followed threads in this section for a while "just in case". I am not currently in the house so nothing is imminent, but I know I'm going to want to tinker. The shelves are not permanent by any means. I imagine they'll be ok for a while, but they aren't required. The floor units might be a different story but if a roll down screen happens, I won't want the shelving anyway. Speakers would replace them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) I'd say that's a standard 16:9 - 100" diagonal screen. It looks as though some RB-81 II's would fit on the side shelves if you aren't going with towers. The new Premier has bookshelf too, but I haven't heard any reviews here yet. I have a pair of RB-81 II's, and can vouch that they are great little speakers. If you are thinking about towers, then you might want to consider Atmos. That room would also be a great candidate for an Atmos system. I don't think anybody here has reviewed it either. You would be going with tower speakers. The white ceiling is a bad idea. There is too much reflection from the screen and raises the ambient light in the room. Light surfaces are your enemy when using a projector for that very reason. Edited March 28, 2015 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted March 28, 2015 Moderators Share Posted March 28, 2015 The white ceiling is a bad idea. There is too much reflection from the screen and raises the ambient light in the room. Light surfaces are your enemy when using a projector for that very reason. I was extremely hesitant to paint my ceiling black but the more I thought about it, a dedicated HT should have a dark ceiling. Once I did, I was 100% glad I did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanm84 Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 The nice part about paint is that it's not permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have a pair of RB-81 II's, and can vouch that they are great little speakers amazing how people with huge speakers like some of us consider the rb-81 a "little" speaker lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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