oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 There was a thread about Fred and his support of dubious agendas specifically this time about the freedom restoration act in IN. Personally I would like to know when Indiana residents lost their freedom and why a new law was needed to restore it. Aside from that, I can't seem to find the thread here. In the meantime, here is a hilarious tidbit that contradicts whatever the gov said the other day in a press conference as an attempt at damage control. http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/indiana-pizzeria-closes-over-backlash-from-owner%e2%80%99s-anti-gay-remarks-to-media/ar-AAakqnD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) There was a thread about Fred and his support of dubious agendas specifically this time about the freedom restoration act in IN. That smacks of pol-a-tics I tell you, pol-a-tics! And in the home state of Klipsch corporate? My friend, that is a meatball right down the center of the plate. Any self respecting Mod would have knocked that thread right out of the park before it even got started. Edited April 2, 2015 by wvu80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxr dad Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 LOL. The Gov is doing some crawfishing isnt he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Repeated attacks can wear down an opposition. Not that that is my agenda of course. But the irony of a law redundant of guaranteed freedoms being controversial and not available for discussion is palpable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 You're not talking about the Pence campaign treasurer named Fred, are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 It appears I am! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 So, to those members here from the great state of IN, please tell me exactly when you lost your religious freedoms and why a new law was needed to get them back? Any personal anecdotes? Were you prevented from going to church? Maybe your car was towed away from the parking lot while you were in church as a form of intimidation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Pence has poor judgement and made a critical error. He forgot that his job is to look out for all the people and not certaing segment, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Maybe Crystal truly believed she was only to serve "Pizza Pious," but I don't speak the language... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Gents, Carl locked that thread and I deleted it entirely. I know nothing of the politics of the Klipsch or Audiovox owners past or present, but this Forum isn't a place for anybody to discuss them. It's only the second thread I've ever deleted and the other one was a 1 post newbie attacking the Audiovox CEO a couple of years ago. Make sure this thread doesn't go south. If you want to criticize the product, customer service, or the like be my guest. I'll leave that to the Klipsch employees to police as I can't judge. But attacks on the politics of Klipsch employees or management ain't happening here. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Well in this case it kind of is because the original poster was intent on feedback being a partial determinant of future purchases. If the corporate wants to ignore this feedback then that is their prerogative, but it goes against everything I ever learned in business school to ignore it. Yes I freely admit I did not go to Harvard, Stanford or Wharton for business school. Their mileage may vary according to their compensation packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 While we are at it lets talk about freedom restoration. In this case freedom of speech even in a corporate environment. Hey Fred! What do you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Freedom Restoration does business in Maryland, Virginia, and DC. http://freerest.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 General question that is seriously asked. I have been in many establishments that have a sign posted stating that "We have a right to refuse service to anyone". Is this sign legit? By that I mean can the owners rightfully refuse service to anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 General question that is seriously asked. I have been in many establishments that have a sign posted stating that "We have a right to refuse service to anyone". Is this sign legit? By that I mean can the owners rightfully refuse service to anyone? Rightfully, or Legally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 I think it is if it is based on existing law regarding refusal of service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 General question that is seriously asked. I have been in many establishments that have a sign posted stating that "We have a right to refuse service to anyone". Is this sign legit? By that I mean can the owners rightfully refuse service to anyone? Rightfully, or Legally? In this context I meant legally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 You can refuse based on laws regarding hygiene. No shirt no shoes no service. But not because you are black, white, hindu, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 You can refuse based on laws regarding hygiene. No shirt no shoes no service. But not because you are black, white, hindu, or whatever. or whatever sexual orientation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) So if you are not a part of a federally or state protected group then you can refuse service? https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/the-right-to-refuse-service-can-a-business-refuse-service-to-someone-because-of-appearance Edited April 2, 2015 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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