Pintoracer Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I was reading through my Denon AVR-1911 manual this morning. It says I can use the surround back channels to bi-amp the front L/R. Do y'all think it will be of any benefit to do this with my setup? Pros and cons. Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 17, 2015 Moderators Share Posted April 17, 2015 Pros...can't think of any Cons...more speaker wire I tried the very same thing when I had my Yamaha RXV-1800 and heard no sonic difference myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I was reading through my Denon AVR-1911 manual this morning. It says I can use the surround back channels to bi-amp the front L/R. Do y'all think it will be of any benefit to do this with my setup? Pros and cons. Thanks guys! Try it see if you can notice a difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintoracer Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks Youthman. Just wanted to see if it was worth the time and effort. I may just leave it alone. It sounds great regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 17, 2015 Moderators Share Posted April 17, 2015 It doesn't hurt to try...I just don't think you will hear a difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintoracer Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm going to do some more reading on the subject. Who knows? I might get bored this weekend. And, I do have some extra speaker wire sitting in my box of wiring and cables......hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 If you do try have someone else hook it up and change the setting while your not in the room. Take placebo out of the equation entirely. Go back and forth. If you an pick out the better sound and it happens to be the bi amp then good for you. If not then join the rest of us who don't hear any difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 If you do try have someone else hook it up and change the setting while your not in the room. Take placebo out of the equation entirely. Go back and forth. If you an pick out the better sound and it happens to be the bi amp then good for you. If not then join the rest of us who don't hear any difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) I will tell you to bi-amp, and I say this without disagreeing one bit with those with an OPPOSITE opinion. That's because in my readings over the years, it seems in some speakers bi-amping yields a noticeable difference, and with others, no difference at all, so it's not "one size fits all." There are lots of articles which can support or dispel both sides of the argument, in detail. I will leave it with just my conclusion, but I could argue both sides and be correct both ways. The majority or mainstream opinion is, (passive) bi-amping does NOT work. In my living room with my speakers with my AVR with its limited power amp, I can hear a difference, but it's subtle. I hear more detail in the midrange, like the difference in sound between a french horn and trombone. My speakers sound good both ways. See what sound good to your ears. Edited April 17, 2015 by wvu80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintoracer Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Thanks guys! It's really a great group here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Quad amping is where its at Edited April 17, 2015 by A1UC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaman Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 To Bi amp with a single source such as a receiver probably will not affect anything beneficial since you are drawing from the same transformer to supply the additional power. If you were biamping with a two channel amp to supply power to your woofers while letting the receiver channels provide power for the tweeter it may improve the sound. My two cents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pite Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Technical wisdom says that there're minimal chances of you hearing any difference with RF 62 II. AVR -1911 should have enough juice to move those 6" woofers in RF-62 II and thus able to drive them adequately at decent volume level. That said, no harm in trying as you might surprise all of us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 yes with a pair of matching Stereo amp vertical biamp Stereo 50 to 100 watt stereo blocks will do a good job ymmv some don't hear anything some are delighted. asking questions is fine but there is only one way that you will ever know for yourself where on the continuum your ears fall. Best regards Moray James. PS: this is not about power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiey60 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 To Bi amp with a single source such as a receiver probably will not affect anything beneficial since you are drawing from the same transformer to supply the additional power. If you were biamping with a two channel amp to supply power to your woofers while letting the receiver channels provide power for the tweeter it may improve the sound. My two cents.This! We all know when we run 5 or 7 channels on a receiver the power per channel drops significantly from just 2 channel use. So bi-amping off a receiver even for just 2 channel will actually be 4 channels driven therefore power per channel drops the same. No power gains to be had from bi-amping off a receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maukjosh Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm running my rf-82ii 's bi-amped off a onkyo and they sound amazing I haven't tried them hooked up normal yet but I'm thinking about trying it so I can utilize the 7.2 and zone 2 settings. (6of one half dozen of the other) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintoracer Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Well, got home and did the deed. My ears say the bass is a little cleaner. Maybe, overall a little more crisp. I live in an apartment right now. So, I don't really get to push them as hard as I would like. It's not a dramatic improvement. But, I think it was worth the effort. Thanks y'all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Well, got home and did the deed. My ears say the bass is a little cleaner. Maybe, overall a little more crisp. I live in an apartment right now. So, I don't really get to push them as hard as I would like. It's not a dramatic improvement. But, I think it was worth the effort. Thanks y'all. You make it seem so, dirty. Did you have to change any settings in your AVR? My Onk 717 has a specific menu item for bi-amping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pintoracer Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Had to go into speaker setup menu and set fronts to bi-amp. Edited April 18, 2015 by Pintoracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I have tried it and did not hear any difference. Then I tried it stereo power amp a did not hear difference. Wire is fairly inexpensive so give it a try. This hobby is about learning for yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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