rockhound Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Looking for a little advice. I have the itch to a try a all horn loaded design, I do not have corners that would allow me to use the KHorns so out of the 3 listed which would you prefer and why?? My listening style would be mostly music (Rock, Classic Rock) and some tv thrown in from time to time (Blu Ray Concerts). I've heard a lot of good things about La Scala's but have not read much about Belles or the newer La Scala II. You can see in my sig what I currently have in each room and I would rotate this next set between my man cave and the living room. So out of the 3 which would you get and why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Build False corners & buy those Khorns on LR CL! PWK didn't have corners @ @ least one of his "brand-new, second-hand" homes... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 If you're just experimenting, Lascalas would be the cheapest and easiest ones to locate. Your horn subs would fill the bottom end in nicely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 2d choice, SC vacation & buy the LSII FS in GS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 If you're just experimenting, Lascalas would be the cheapest and easiest ones to locate. Your horn subs would fill the bottom end in nicely. Good points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Belles are harder to come by and usually cost more, because they look so good. I would take the LS II over the LS, but they are way more costly. With any of the three, you would want the sub for HT duty. For the music you listen to, the LS would be economical and sound really, really good. Bruce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The Belles look great, but have a smaller diameter and shorter mid horn than the LaScala even thought the drivers are the same. For what Belles run you could spend a little extra on some K-horns and enclose them or build false walls. Enclosing them would be much cheaper and easier. The LaScalas would be the cheapest way out and like mentioned above, would work great with your subs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Belle's are the sexiest looking, but cost as much as KHorns and don't perform as well as LaScalas. As an extension of what Carl said above. You can get in and out of a pair of LS for free. Buy em, try em, sell em. If you like, and have the coin, throw it down on some LS 2's. I also agree that you shouldn't rule out KHorns. People who have used false walls said they worked very well. With a horn sub, you may not miss the bass of a KHorn, but if you want to just turn the sub off, they are the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 snailtrax traded his LS to me & kept his Chorus II... I absolutely LOVE those LS; but, haven't owned Chorus II, yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhound Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 What is the difference in LS1 and 2? The klipsch site shows the same specs with the LS2 a little bigger dimension wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Better finish, add 1/4" to walls for LS II. The LS was available as RAW Birch to completely finished. Leave the rest to those more knowledgeable than Moi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnote Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Belle's are the sexiest looking, but cost as much as KHorns and don't perform as well as LaScalas. As an extension of what Carl said above. You can get in and out of a pair of LS for free. Buy em, try em, sell em. If you like, and have the coin, throw it down on some LS 2's. Pretty sure you can do the same with Belle's I think I preferred the Belle's over LaScala's not sure why and it was a while ago that I sold them so no side by side comparison , could be just fond memories clouding my judgement Haven't heard LS 2's so I can't say but I'm going to go out on a limb and say there is no wrong choice . LaScalas are hard to beat dollar for dollar ! I currently have 5 for a little more than I sold a pair of Belle's for . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) What is the difference in LS1 and 2? The klipsch site shows the same specs with the LS2 a little bigger dimension wise. La Scala IIs have thicker walls, and therefore less of a tendency to resonate. Several people have reported better bass, which could be attributed to the thicker walls. As far as I know, that is the only non-cosmetic difference. I have a Belle center. It always sounded good, but, since it is behind a grille cloth wall fabric (with it's own grille cloth taken off) I ended up building a new top hat, and putting in the same (larger) mid horn that is in the Klipschorn, LS, and LS II. That way I hoped it would be better timbre matched to the Klipschorns I use for LF & RF. I guessed that, since I use Audyssey, I wouldn't need to change the crossovers. That seems to have turned out to be true. IMO, for you: The best choice would be Khorns in artificial corners, toed in toward your ears. Be sure the artificial corners are very strong ... 3/4 no-void plywood on both front and back surfaces, covered with a good hardwood veneer. Second choice, La Scala II Third choice, La Scala Any of the above would benefit from using your horn loaded subwoofer, and the LS I & II would probably require it. Edited April 21, 2015 by garyrc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I vote lascala - period - best value you can find and enjoy - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrofan Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 So what is the thickness of the panels on ls2? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 1" iIrc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 1" iIrc the lascala are 3/4 inch thick plywood walls - the scala 2 - 1 inch mdf - now if you add braces to the Scala - that pretty much is the same - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I think that if you are going to go to the trouble of installing braces why not install serious braces like those in a Peavey FH1You get far more structural reinforcement of the cabinet walls and of the doghouse walls and the mouth of the cabinet get braced as well. Some might not like the looks but I am in this stuff for the sound. Best regards Moray James. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Moray, I have seen the braces in the post just before yours where a grille was installed and it had a very nice look. I think that was the reason for the design. Without the grille, it makes no sense to me either. Why not brace the entire dog house as in the yellow picture? Another thing I don't know why we don't see it some 1/4" BB glued over the dog house. It would be a great fit, and if done well, would make the dog house point full 1" BB. As for the sides of the cabinet, I don't know of any better way than laminating the outside walls as in the yellow picture. Perhaps the material used could be more rigid than BB so thinner material could be laminated to it. That would make the mod less cosmetically noticeable. What material is highly rigid and would laminate? What about carbon fiber? 1/4" carbon fiber would be as rigid on it's own as 3/4" BB if not more so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) to tell you the truth I expect you could build this cabinet from 5/8" Baltic Birch Ply or Apple Ply and use double braces styled after the Peavey and you would end up with a lighter and more rigid cabinet than the LSll, I would make the top and the bottom out of 3/4" BB. I do like the look of the LS with grill inserts but the braces really don't do it for me. Best regards Moray James. Edited April 21, 2015 by moray james 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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