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Having never owned speakers with horn-loaded drivers before, would toeing them in improve the imaging? I know with traditional speakers ( at least the ones that I have owned ) doing so improved the imaging. Does anyone here toe-in? Sorry for being an amatuer...

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With my Forte II's yes toe in absolutely helps. Most speakers will benefit to some degree with toe in. It all depends on room acoustics, dampening and other variables to the degree of toe in. Try an inch or less at a time and see what sounds better. However there are a few speakers that just sound awful toed in.  Good luck.  

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I toe in. My 82ii's are about 10.5 feet from the MLP, which is a small round table in between my wife and I, and about 8-9 feet apart. They are not toed in directly at the MLP, more a spot behind it. I sit on the right side and the right front basically shoots across the left arm rest of my chair. 

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I toe my 63's in to where the imaginary lines bisect about a foot behind my ears.  Spot on imaging IMO.

 

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Is that if you were sitting in thee MLP? If so, that is about what I went for and it works well. I spent a whole day messing around. I put them right on both sides of the display and straight, it sounded poorly. I put my subs inside them and toed them in, that spread them out too far and I could only hear one speaker it seemed like. Hitting as close to I could as an equilateral triangle and not quite aiming them both dead on MLP was great.

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I toe my 63's in to where the imaginary lines bisect about a foot behind my ears.  Spot on imaging IMO.

 

Bill

That is what we did with our setup also... It ended up with an added benefit of equalizing the sound between the front MLP, and our 2nd row center position too. :)

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I like Twister LOL...hokey pokey too ;). Sounds like toe-in is "in". I had my previous speakers toed in to where they intersected about a foot in front of me...I'll give that a shot.

Toe in so that the horns are centered right at you, not in front.  Any adjustments after that are more likely to be to the sides rather than more inward.

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Having never owned speakers with horn-loaded drivers before, would toeing them in improve the imaging? I know with traditional speakers ( at least the ones that I have owned ) doing so improved the imaging. Does anyone here toe-in? Sorry for being an amatuer...

Most definitely. Horns in general tend to be more directional. Just do it incrementally you will know when you hit the sweet spot.

I find the modern Klipsch still require toe in but sound better off axis than the Heritage models.

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Thanks guys. I've aimed my L and R at my listening position, and that brings me the best imaging with these speakers...not much different positioning than my previous setup.

Now, as far as the center speaker is concerned, its positioned right below my TV.. Literally an inch or two from the bottom of the TV. Would it be necessary to aim it upwards or not? In relation to my mains, the height positioning of my center is just below the mains. Any suggestions??

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