drobo Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Anyone using graphic or parametric equalizers in their 2-ch system? Most of the hareware units look designed for the pro concert circuit or studio. I am not familiar with how they would sound in a home environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 blasphemy! (welcome to the forum) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Anyone using graphic or parametric equalizers in their 2-ch system? Most of the hareware units look designed for the pro concert circuit or studio. I am not familiar with how they would sound in a home environment. Yes, my setup includes parametric EQ in all channels through what you call "pro units" - active digital crossovers. How do they sound? I'd never give them up. See https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/123370-settings-for-tri-amping-an-82-belle-with-an-active-digital-crossover/?hl=tri-amping https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/123370-settings-for-tri-amping-an-82-belle-with-an-active-digital-crossover/?hl=tri-amping Edited May 14, 2015 by Chris A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven1963 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yup. I use a vintage DBX eq/analyzer. 14 band. I will cry when it dies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I personally stick to the digital active "speaker processors" - which are often used for active crossovers, but include functions for EQ as well. It's a shame they don't make consumer grade equipment, so you gotta deal with the hassle of using pro audio gear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Digital parametric EQ here. Couldn't live without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montego Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yup. I use a vintage DBX eq/analyzer. 14 band. I will cry when it dies. dbx 14/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 hear, hear... literally. I can not live without EQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswhotakesphotos Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'm thinking of getting one. I use the tone controls on my pre to take the edge off my system, but being able to be a bit more specific would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I have heard some Klipsch systems with Graphic or Parametric EQ and there definitely is a benefit if you feel you are missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Before buying any EQ listen to it with all the controls set flat, punch it in and out of the system. Everyone I have heard blurs detail and imaging so much that I cannot use one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Digital parametric EQ here. Couldn't live without it. Same here. Especially my subwoofer channel. In the car, and for the pro-sound rig as well. But all of my stuff has a digital front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feezelbum Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I used a Yamaha GE-3 for <20 years up until I bought a new amp a few weeks ago. Been trying to appreciate the sound, but alas, retraining my ears at this stage I fear will be impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I bought the Behringer DEQ2496, with the mike etc. about two or three years ago. With it in the system but on bypass you could hear it "dull" the system a bit, for lack of a better word. I used several presets suggested by MikeBSA2a3, one of our Jub owners with wide experience with digital eq. They made the listening experience better but not fantastic. I also tried the mike and automatic eq and a bunch of other stuff from the various menus. I got it to where it sounded as good as it could, but one day when I had a friend and Khorn owner ,who had extensively treated his own listening space, over for a session. At various points we were switching the eq in and out of bypass, he thought my system sounded way better in the bypass mode. So I played some more, then some more, and then I swaped a piece out of my system and just disconnected the eq and haven't used it since. The one thing I did try to do in this experimenter was not to change too much at one time, nor did I constantly fiddle with individual tone settings, which is good cause I can't tell a 30hz signal from a 600 hz signal. These things have a definite learning curve, not only in figuring out how to actually operate the gizmo, but to know when you are going astray from what you are trying to achieve by varying the settings. Now for something like Jubs, active seems to a better approach than passive because of time delays etc., but others can speak to that far better than I. For now, I'm living without eq and seem much more content with my listening, room nodes and all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prerich Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 VST user here MathAudio EQ Pro. Love it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) he thought my system sounded way better in the bypass mode. So I played some more, then some more, and then I swaped a piece out of my system and just disconnected the eq and haven't used it since. I had the same experience with the DEQ2496 - so I used mine only for continuous pink noise RTA equalization, that is, until I started using REW effectively and REW software itself upgraded in performance over time. Now I don't use the DEQ2496 at all--my Behringer DEQ2496 is collecting dust now. The Yamaha SP2060 active crossover that I have for my Jubs is quite transparent, even more than the EV Dx38s that I have in my center JuBelle (3-way with CP25 tweeter) and surround biamped Cornwalls. These Dx38s are still much more transparent than I found the DEQ2496 to be. There seems to be a threshold of quality that one must observe and stay above when using digital EQ and/or active crossovers. YMMV. Chris Edited May 15, 2015 by Chris A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Great post Chris. Yes, when it comes to eq, I'm very much a novice and my experience is very much limited by my limited knowledge. Not all flavors will produce equal results, and not all programmers (and I do feel like a programmer when fooling around with eq) are equal. Now as to digital sources.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 These things have a definite learning curve, not only in figuring out how to actually operate the gizmo, but to know when you are going astray from what you are trying to achieve by varying the settings. I hear ya Thebes....as I use a DEQ2496 and love it. However, there are too many ways to make it sound out of whack until you get more familiar with the unit. It is a great sounding unit but cumbersome to use. I'm sure there are better sounding units out there but since EQing in the digital domain there's no turning back for me. I've never had gear that allowed me to listen 'flat' for my tastes......and when I hear the comment "I want to hear the music the way the artist/engineer intended" I just have to shake my head. They have different ears, equipment, rooms etc. I want my midrange under control, my bass proper and my highs just right. For all I know the producer has a wooden ear and likes his mids boosted, boomy bass and don't even get me started on the highs. Long live digital EQ's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The Yamaha SP2060 active crossover that I have for my Jubs is quite transparent, even more than the EV Dx38s that I have in my center JuBelle (3-way with CP25 tweeter) and surround biamped Cornwalls. These Dx38s are still much more transparent than I found the DEQ2496 to be I can't wait to try out some of these units. Someone else here was pushing a Yamaha digital eq. and that it was better than the 2496. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The room and the gear always need EQ, the question is how to do it. The auction site has tons of vintage ones for not much money. In the newer ones, some like dbx, beringer has bang for the buck but has to be modded for heat, there are others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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