Thaddeus Smith Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://www.theaudiocritic.com/audio-legacy-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's signed —Peter Aczel Are you asking if it's a pseudonym? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 I wasn't being literal. I heard Dave's voice in my head as I read some of the points and figured he would enjoy reading it. Thanks Carl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Point three works for me. Room, recording, and speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Mien doppelganger. I would have added 78s to his list of old recordings that can sound better than the latest high res. His take on tubes might look like a put down, but not much. He's old enough to have lived through the whole big debate about the audible impact of 2nd order harmonic distortion and that it's "warming" and "fattening" of the sound is quite compelling to many...hence his "...if you like..." in front of it because he knows many do! Surprised he didn't mention third order, as it is much less debatable. It's not a "fetish" that electric guitarist insist on tubes. The third harmonic is an Ionian Major Scale Fifth above the second harmonic, and playing in fifths is fundamental to a lot of rock and roll. All things considered, the Peter Aczel is the voice of TRVTH. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I heard Dave's voice in my head That's never a good thing. You see him too???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yes, all of you actually, now that we spent a condensed amount of time together in Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I heard Dave's voice in my head as I read some of the points and figured he would enjoy reading it. Good Lord, man! So do I. Scary. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwn Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Are we all suppose to crawl inside our coffins and die???? I don't know about you but I can't get a Concert Hall inside my house... Nor can I have Zakk Wylde come to my home and perform his magic... If there was one magic system that sounds exactly like what he is looking for than we wouldn't be here discussing audio nirvana. No more going to your buddy's house for a beer and a listen.... Not everyone is into Orchestra music...I can't stand it....I think it is boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 i think he's mocking the audiophile pursuit of "musical accuracy" through facade reviews and spec lists, when many of those people have never heard the type live performance they are trying to replicate in the home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The principal determinants of sound quality in your listening room, given the limitations of a particular recording, are the loudspeakers—not the electronics, not the cables, not anything else. This is so fundamental that I still can’t understand why it hasn’t filtered down to the lowest levels of the audio community. The melancholy truth is that a new amplifier will not change your audio life. It may, or may not, effect a very small improvement (usually not unless your old amplifier was badly designed), but the basic sound of your system will remain the same. Only a better loudspeaker can change that. My best guess as to why the loudspeaker-comes-first principle has not prevailed in the audiophile world is that a new pair of loudspeakers tends to present a problem in interior decoration. Swapping amplifiers is so much simpler, not to mention spouse-friendlier, and the initial level of anticipation is just as high, before the eventual letdown (or denial thereof) DING, DING, DING! WINNER, WINNER, WINNER! Of course we at the Klipsch Forum knew that. I think Mr. Mallette is only one of many here that hold most of Mr. Aczel's tenets of Audiophiledom to be TRUTH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Bum Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Dave is much more curmudgeonny than Peter Aczel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yes, all of you actually, now that we spent a condensed amount of time together in Hope.I see you all and I wasn't even there...Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivervalleymgb Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I don't know about the 78's sounding better, but I haven't finished my 78 only system. So, maybe there's hope for me yet! And, I have been listening to my 802D instead of the Klipschorns lately. Edited May 19, 2015 by Rivervalleymgb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't know about the 78's sounding better, The question is "better than WHAT?" Listening to my Benny Goodman band recording of "Sing, Sing, Sing" with Gene Krupa doing things to drums no child should be exposed to it is as it should be: It is NOT about the medium, it is about the music, the performance, and the engineering. A 24/192 surround recording of this done by some modern band with 30 microphones, a mixer, musicians that might be technically qualified but did not LIVE this music, and an engineer from some big school with techknowhow but no ears is no match for the thrill of giants of performance, engineering and delivery by whatever means they had to work with. That is what the music lover is after. SN ratio? WHO CARES! You can't fix crap. Bear in mind I am assuming the clean amplification and Klipsch speakers, i.e., a first class playback chain. The one I reference is very wide range, but my acoustic recording made some 20 years earlier of Kid Ory doing "Muskrat Ramble" also totally transcends the available technology. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 20, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2015 Not everyone is into Orchestra music...I can't stand it....I think it is boring Me too . . . . until LarryC lent me a Teaching Company course called How To Listen To and Understand Great Music by Dr. Greenberg, AND I went to a Klipsch get together in Marland to attend a concert with about 20 others for a performance of Holst's The Planets. From there to crying at operas, well some operas. You can get pretty close to that level of emotion with Jubilees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 20, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2015 Not sure about No. 3, going from a good preamp to a great one can change your musical life pretty dramatically, it did mine, and the differences were very audible, even to my tin ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Not everyone is into Orchestra music...I can't stand it....I think it is boring No idea of what you mean by "orchestra music," as Peter did not specify any specific source other than acoustic. There is a good reason for that. If you do not listen to acoustic music, then any pursuit of accuracy or high fidelity is entirely subjective as the source material is synthetic. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I listen to plenty of synthesized music (anything that requires electricity) but do not use it to judge a system. Dave Edited May 20, 2015 by Mallette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Jove Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The man called my Chorus 2's "monkey coffins." I don't think I like that man. (Smile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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