oldred Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 So.....here is my dilemma. Bought a pair of Forte's....finally negotiated the guy down to a good price &375.00 for a pair in black lacquer .The drivers are pristine...the cabinets not so .So I decided to strip and refinish. Was originally going to refinish in black...but I find out that this is a mystery black lacquer only available in Hope Arkansas....some kind a stuff with a # 40 sheen ....I read all the specs and a lot of optional alternatives.. the problem I have is after removing the drivers and stripping....do I really want to cover this beautiful grain. Thought of going with India ink and going back to black ....but I just do not know?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 but I just do not know?? This would be beautiful. Bill 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 agree with the above....don't go back to black.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 As nice as black can be, it seems a waste to go back black after the work done. Wood looks good! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 With all of the work you have into them to make them look this good id just clear lacquer them, 000steelwool when dry and lacquer again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancho Panza Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I agree WOOD looks GOOD. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthews Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 don't you dare paint those !!! +1 clear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Don't paint. If I were convinced I could strip my Chorus IIs without messing it up, they'd be in walnut oil by now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 agree with the above....don't go back to black.... After my weekend listening session, I can't help but hear Amy Winehouse in my head. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Yea.....black is definitely out.....so it will be oil or lacquer. I still need to go over them with 0000 steal wool and lacquer thinner 1 more time to get all the black out of grain......then 200....then.....400 grit.....Then finish......should be done in a week or so Edited July 15, 2015 by oldred 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 @@oldred, How long did it take you to strip them? Where are you located in Illinois? Are you a decent teacher? I'm not especially handy, but I'm a quick study and would love to learn to strip and stain my Chorus IIs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 I live in Cary...It took 3 hours each...it was easy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 A wood finish is easier to do and not mess up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Do I just need a sander? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalcomfort Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Do I just need a sander? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Get a good orbital sander and some 80 grit to get everything nice and flat. Then go over it with 150 grit to get everything slick. If you are worried about how the wood will take the stain, put some sealer stuff ( don't remember the name I used) on the wood first before you stain. this makes the wood take the stain more even. Use a gloss poly if you want a good shine. It is easy to work with and leaves a nice shine that doesn't hold dust!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Please DO NOT sand them with a sander....go to Home Depot/ Lowe's/ Menard's/ Walmart....which ever is the best for you ....buy 15 minute chemical stripper....Paint scapper( the one I got the blade came down from the handle on a slight angle( Walmart $5.00) got some kind of blue stripping pads with the plastic handle (Walmart $4.00) a couple more blue replacement stripper pads (Guess where...the W store again).. Oh yea rubber gloves...not the doctor kind ...the science class kind...the W store again...cant remember how much?? The stripper pads ...say they will strip all sorts of S... but they will not harm the wood...saw them ...said WTF....worked great. I put the gloves on my hands ...the stripper on the wood and went to cut the lawn...came back 20 minutes later...scraped the black lacquer off...came off kind of spottie...put some more stripper on .....fired the lawnmower back up...came back 15 minutes later again went over that side again this time using the blue stripper pads in a circular motion....you know what's next...bada bing bada bang...no more black lacquer...one side done... I did this over and over again....till I was done cutting the lawn.....What is it they say about the definition of insanity???...My wife thinks I am When all done ....next take lacquer thinner and a S... load of paper towels and wipe them off....Ah ...nothing like the smell of lacquer thinner on a hot day cutting the lawn...don't forget the cold beverage of your choice...after having SO much fun I washed them down a damp towel.. Waited 2 days went over them again with 0000 steel wool and some more lacquer thinner....good stuff...the paper towel and the OLD damp towel thing again... Then sanded by hand 220 then 400.... could have been worse...could have just been watching TV.... The worse part for me of course the W store Edited July 18, 2015 by oldred 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Use a respirator when using those chemicals. They aren't kidding about the brain damage warnings. For the wood shop a p100 filter is great to keep the dust out of your lungs. I also use them when mowing because of allergy troubles. Here's an example of a half mask with p100 filters: http://www.amazon.com/3M-6000-Facepiece-Respirator-Medium/dp/B000FTEDMM To protect from some chemical fumes you can use these next two filters with this same mask. For when using with a wide variety of fumes (this one also has the p100 filter): http://www.amazon.com/3M-60926-Multi-Cartridge-Filter/dp/B0013A7MBQ For lacquer thinner protection without the dust protection you could use the 6001 cartridge: http://www.amazon.com/3M-Organic-Vapor-Cartridge-1-Pair/dp/B000XBKLLE Instead of changing filters I'd just get the one with the p100 built in so I'm not messing with it between cutting wood and using any solvents or epoxies. Store it in a ziplock to keep the filter fresh (it continues to filter when you aren't wearing it). I can tell when it's used up when I can start to smell the chemicals again even with the mask on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 I agree always take the necessary safety precautions when using chemicals 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clark Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 So Oldred, what did you land on with the color? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 Decide on this....still need to put on 4 layers of top coat ..and repaint the riser radius 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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