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All you have to do is properly hydrate.

 

Correct! eat right....drink water....no problem! This so-called constipation problem is posted by people who are not on longterm opioids but wanting to make a nasty case. Never in 5 years did I have constipotion!! For those who don't eat right, and eat piles of crap junk foods, they get COLACE prescribed!!! LOL...

You are equating your experience as to what happens with everyone else and that is just Bull Shit11

Oxycontin and opiates slow down peristalsis which is the wave like motion of the bowels to move alon the food being digested. This absolutely can and does cause constipation QUITE FEQUENTLY.

Roger

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The "answer" is to do what they're currently doing. It's not a perfect solution, but you can't legalize these things, and you can't let GPs prescribe them (since most have shown their ineptitude with their prescribing methods). So, pain clinics are the best way to help those who have to be on these medications to find any real relief -- you need some form or measure of control and accountability.

Is anyone going to address the alcohol related death numbers to those of pain killers?

Dean,

GPs are no longer allowed to prescribe opiate pain killers period!

Roger

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The "answer" is to do what they're currently doing. It's not a perfect solution, but you can't legalize these things, and you can't let GPs prescribe them (since most have shown their ineptitude with their prescribing methods). So, pain clinics are the best way to help those who have to be on these medications to find any real relief -- you need some form or measure of control and accountability.

Is anyone going to address the alcohol related death numbers to those of pain killers?

Most alcohol deaths are due to traffic accidents and most are victims, not the drunks.

It is hard to say how many traffic deaths are related to prescription drug use because how many are already drunk and you can blow at the seen for alcohol, but have to have a blood draw at the hospital for narcotics.

I sugest that it would be a lot easier to look at direct deaths from overdose and cut out traffic fatalities to get a better understanding of this.

As for your number of 14,000, more women died in 2010 from Oxycontin than that. More males use than females, and the numbers have rizen since 2010.

Also, Oxycontin IS a gateway drug to Heroin. They call Oxycontin "Hill Billy Heroine, and Heroine is much cheaper once you have lost your job and sold everything of value you have or can steel.

Roger

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The "answer" is to do what they're currently doing. It's not a perfect solution, but you can't legalize these things, and you can't let GPs prescribe them (since most have shown their ineptitude with their prescribing methods). So, pain clinics are the best way to help those who have to be on these medications to find any real relief -- you need some form or measure of control and accountability.

Is anyone going to address the alcohol related death numbers to those of pain killers?

Dean,

GPs are no longer allowed to prescribe opiate pain killers period!

Roger

To me that is overboard. A dentist can prescribe opioid pain killers. A lot of GPs perform minor surgery in their office, it seems to me that it would be perfectly appropriate for then to perscribe 3 or 5 days worth of pain meds.

The whole world is off its rocker.

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The "answer" is to do what they're currently doing. It's not a perfect solution, but you can't legalize these things, and you can't let GPs prescribe them (since most have shown their ineptitude with their prescribing methods). So, pain clinics are the best way to help those who have to be on these medications to find any real relief -- you need some form or measure of control and accountability.

Is anyone going to address the alcohol related death numbers to those of pain killers?

Dean,

GPs are no longer allowed to prescribe opiate pain killers period!

Roger

To me that is overboard. A dentist can prescribe opioid pain killers. A lot of GPs perform minor surgery in their office, it seems to me that it would be perfectly appropriate for then to perscribe 3 or 5 days worth of pain meds.

The whole world is off its rocker.

Travis,

I just read this yesterday looking for another article as I was not previously aware of it.

If I could find the link, I would have posted it.

Roger

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The "answer" is to do what they're currently doing. It's not a perfect solution, but you can't legalize these things, and you can't let GPs prescribe them (since most have shown their ineptitude with their prescribing methods). So, pain clinics are the best way to help those who have to be on these medications to find any real relief -- you need some form or measure of control and accountability.

Is anyone going to address the alcohol related death numbers to those of pain killers?

Dean,

GPs are no longer allowed to prescribe opiate pain killers period!

Roger

To me that is overboard. A dentist can prescribe opioid pain killers. A lot of GPs perform minor surgery in their office, it seems to me that it would be perfectly appropriate for then to perscribe 3 or 5 days worth of pain meds.

The whole world is off its rocker.

Travis,

I just read this yesterday looking for another article as I was not previously aware of it.

If I could find the link, I would have posted it.

Roger

It could be a state by state thing. FDA reclassified it from III to II. I just checked, any licensed physician in Texas with a DEA number can prescribe Class II drugs, including HCPs. It is going tohurt NPs and PAs who were allowed to write HCPs when they were class III. Now only the only NPs and PAs who can write Class II HCPs are those who work in a hospice or hospital.

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All you have to do is properly hydrate.

 Correct! eat right....drink water....no problem! This so-called constipation problem is posted by people who are not on longterm opioids but wanting to make a nasty case. Never in 5 years did I have constipotion!! For those who don't eat right, and eat piles of crap junk foods, they get COLACE prescribed!!! LOL...
You are equating your experience as to what happens with everyone else and that is just Bull Shit11Oxycontin and opiates slow down peristalsis which is the wave like motion of the bowels to move alon the food being digested. This absolutely can and does cause constipation QUITE FEQUENTLY.sTOP POSTING ON YOUR OWN LIMITED EXPERIENCE AND TRY USING A SEARCH ENGINE TO EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE POSTING!Roger

I always ask, what's your experience with opiate? Some are offended and refuse to answer. Here's why I ask... Pain clinic teaches people about constipation and they provide excellent advice to easily avoid the problem. Advice is eat right, drink lots of water, and if needed use Colace. That's the MEDICAL ADVICE PAL. it's not something I made up. If you had seen pain specialists for opiate, they would also give you that lesson. See? It's not just my experience, it's the medical standard advice and it works!!! Lol

So all these people here with no personal .opiate experience make absurd wild claims about things they no nothing about like huge constipation issue. Sure, if people won't follow medical advice lots of bad things happen.

I might be stupid but my doctors are highly regarded and know they stuff. I trust doctors to know about my medical treatment not lawyers politicians and cops and government dudes. Everyone agrees that when lawyers try practicing medicine they f###k the pooch. Obamnacare for example!!! Lol all lawyers!!!!! For some reason they all think they know more then docs.

Anyway... I was not making my own limited informationformula.. Iwas citing the medical consults I've been given. I assume they didn't just give it to me, but others as well. Go to your pain doc and ask about constipation.... See what he tells you.

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I see how this works now. It's all about reading articles to make non doctors sound like doctors lol!!!! I ain't that stoopid!

Real doctors have patients with real medical conditions and make medical decisions best for each patient. Good doctors, good result. Iprolly won't be going to any polititionsor lawyers for my next medical consult, and if anyone here gets hurt I wouldn't advice you to either!!! Polititions love making rules for others. Its an ADDICTION they have to be experts at everything!!! Lol

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There is no "crushable" form of OxyContin sold in the U.S. and Canada. The the only version available is the OP version, which has been "plasticized". Abusers do all kinds of strange and interesting things with these, but not to snort (unless they're morons).

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There is no "crushable" form of OxyContin sold in the U.S. and Canada. The the only version available is the OP version, which has been "plasticized". Abusers do all kinds of strange and interesting things with these, but not to snort (unless they're morons).

I believe you are thinking of Oxy Neo that couldn't be crushed. The bikers had it solved chemically to break it down to be snorted within a month of it being released a few yrs ago. The original Oxycontin is still available here. Highly regulated.

Alcohol is the most dangerous to detox from, not the worst, but certainly the most dangerous without medical supervision. I've detoxed off all of them, except  fentanyl and Ketamine.

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Uh, you're the one with "best friend" who supposedly snorts this stuff.

I just googled it after reading your post.

"In August 2010, Purdue Pharma reformulated their long-acting oxycodone line, marketed as OxyContin, to use a misuse-resistant polymer designed to decrease abuse potential by defeating the release mechanism.[47] The FDA approved relabeling the reformulated version as abuse-resistant in April 2013.[48]"

I do think this thread has run its course though.

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Most alcohol deaths are due to traffic accidents and most are victims, not the drunks.

 

It all depends on how you look at alcohol deaths.  Heart disease, liver disease, suicide, renal failure, liver cancer, esophagel cancer, throat cancer,ect,ect are associated with alcohol.  There are a lot more acohol death when you weed further into why people die.  All of these other condition will be listed on the death certificate but, alcohol surely had a hand in these peoples demise.

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Uh, you're the one with "best friend" who supposedly snorts this stuff.

I just googled it after reading your post.

"In August 2010, Purdue Pharma reformulated their long-acting oxycodone line, marketed as OxyContin, to use a misuse-resistant polymer designed to decrease abuse potential by defeating the release mechanism.[47] The FDA approved relabeling the reformulated version as abuse-resistant in April 2013.[48]"

I do think this thread has run its course though.

A "good buddy" is not my "Best Friend", but we ran track and went to school together since the 7th grade which was way before a lady pulled out in front of him and he T-boned his Harley into her and ended up with permanent brain damage, three fused vertebrae in his neck and two more in his lower back with multiple spinal surgeries and nerve blocks. He didn't even smoke pot in high school, but he has been divorced 4 times now.

Roger

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dwilawyer it sounds like you are okay with alcohol because lets see here, you in fact might be a dui lawyer? What a real stand up citizen, people break the law and drive drunk and possibly kill other people with their cars and you go to court and try and get them off the hook so they can go do it again. Obviously you have never had a medical condition which required morphine? IV form of morphine is quick in quick out, I didn't feel any of the drug in my system after like a few hours of my last shot. I was getting 10mg of morphine injected every 2 hours for 2 weeks. I have seen both opiate withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal and alcohol is by far the worst, ask anyone who has seen it or lived it. Alcohol withdrawals is a very serious matter.

 

The people that abuse opiates, which are mainly heroin users and NOT pill users do it for the initial rush. BIg doses of opiates quickly administered intravenously is what they do and why they die. Complete misuse of the drug. I have had nurses in a rush not mix the morphine with enough saline and just shove the plunger quickly............whoa your whole neck and spine hurt and this rush screams through your body. This is the high dopers keep trying to relive and keep needing bigger and bigger doses, which leads to respiratory failure.

 

People can make money off defending criminal activity and that is okay in our society but if someone wants to take some medicine for pain they are the bane of society.

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I stand corrected.

After sleeping on it, and praying about it, I went through and removed a post and modified some others with the inflammatory comments. This is starting to escalate in a really unhealthy way. I shouldn't be second guessing your motives. With that said, the situation with the listing really upset me because the only time I list anything is when we need extra money. We really got hammered last month with medical bills, and I have to come up with all of the money for the dental work before they'll do it. Seems everyone these days wants whatever insurance doesn't cover up front before they'll do any procedures. So, yeah, I probably overreacted.

The article that the Travis posted, written by Dr. fields, is very good.

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dwilawyer it sounds like you are okay with alcohol because lets see here, you in fact might be a dui lawyer? What a real stand up citizen, people break the law and drive drunk and possibly kill other people with their cars and you go to court and try and get them off the hook so they can go do it again. Obviously you have never had a medical condition which required morphine? IV form of morphine is quick in quick out, I didn't feel any of the drug in my system after like a few hours of my last shot. I was getting 10mg of morphine injected every 2 hours for 2 weeks. I have seen both opiate withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal and alcohol is by far the worst, ask anyone who has seen it or lived it. Alcohol withdrawals is a very serious matter.

 

The people that abuse opiates, which are mainly heroin users and NOT pill users do it for the initial rush. BIg doses of opiates quickly administered intravenously is what they do and why they die. Complete misuse of the drug. I have had nurses in a rush not mix the morphine with enough saline and just shove the plunger quickly............whoa your whole neck and spine hurt and this rush screams through your body. This is the high dopers keep trying to relive and keep needing bigger and bigger doses, which leads to respiratory failure.

 

People can make money off defending criminal activity and that is okay in our society but if someone wants to take some medicine for pain they are the bane of society.

You are correct in that since society can't see an injured spine, they don't relate well to the true pain of such an injury.

On the flip side, I don't see a lot of people robing and prostituting themselves for Alcohol like they do for Oxycontin AND Heroin and you neglected the connection of Oxycontin as a gateway drug to Heroin.

Finally, I would ask if you have ever fought a traffic ticket or if you would get so worked up against someone who had as they also broke the law?

Travis is good people...

Roger

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I stand corrected.

After sleeping on it, and praying about it, I went through and removed a post and modified some others with the inflammatory comments. This is starting to escalate in a really unhealthy way. I shouldn't be second guessing your motives. With that said, the situation with the listing really upset me because the only time I list anything is when we need extra money. We really got hammered last month with medical bills, and I have to come up with all of the money for the dental work before they'll do it. Seems everyone these days wants whatever insurance doesn't cover up front before they'll do any procedures. So, yeah, I probably overreacted.

The article that the Travis posted, written by Dr. fields, is very good.

Dean,

I apologize as well for the nasty email, I got worked up and got WAY out of line.

I did remove the posts from your listing because I had no idea that you were having health issues.

Roger

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