tube fanatic Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Well, as all know I've been pushing for a forum section devoted to using tube electronics with Klipsch speakers (my reasoning was outlined in a couple of previous posts). To date, I have not been alerted to any action on it. So, I think it may be useful if the forum members put in their 2 cents on this issue. I'm hoping that if a couple of hundred, or more, members say they want it, the company will give it a try for 6 months. After all, a separate forum section exists for the exclusive use of about 62 forum members! Regardless of what is discussed there, the section is of no use to the other forum members or the general public since we are all locked out of it. I can't imagine that the discussions there will result in any additional sales of Klipsch speakers either.Now's the time to state your thoughts on this. If there's little interest, I'll drop the matter. Maynard Edited July 25, 2015 by tube fanatic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon string Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'd love to see a section dedicated to tube electronics BUMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Well, as all know I've been pushing for a forum section devoted to using tube electronics with Klipsch speakers (my reasoning was outlined in a couple of previous posts). To date, I have not been alerted to any action on it. So, I think it may be useful if the forum members put in their 2 cents on this issue. I'm hoping that if a couple of hundred, or more, members say they want it, the company will give it a try for 6 months. After all, a separate forum section was created for the exclusive use of about 62 forum members! Regardless of what is discussed there, the section is of no use to the other forum members or the general public since we are all locked out of it. I can't imagine that the discussions there will result in any additional sales of Klipsch speakers either. Now's the time to state your thoughts on this. If there's little interest, I'll drop the matter. Maynard OK. I'll toss in my 2 cents since you asked for them. The separate forum has been around longer than you have been Maynard, it's just that others didn't know about it until recently. It was originally created as a place that certain outcast members were allowed to discuss things that polluted other named forums, rather than just ban those retards. The forum you speak of was not designed to help create new sales for Klipsch, but rather to admonish those free radicals that my cost Klipsch new sales. The 2-channel section was created for the purpose of which you speak, if I remember correctly. And it used to be a hotbed of tube equipment discussions. Perhaps the interest in tube equipment is reflected in the number of threads there. I don't know. I rarely read the 2-channel section. Good luck to you in your quest. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'd like to see the section myself, nothing wrong with learning new things. And I'm an outcast with much on here, so I might as well be another outcast with tubes. My 0.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runninshine Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 The info and education would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Most assuredly....perhaps we could have "heated" discussions about the merits of Telefunken vs. Mullard..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Might as well create a solid state forum, analog forum and a digital forum while you're at it. Dont forget to break down the subwoofer forum into direct radiating and horn loaded at the same time. Edited July 25, 2015 by Schu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Now's the time to state your thoughts on this. If there's little interest, I'll drop the matter. Maynard Like Keith mentioned the two channel forum was where vacuum tube related audio gear was conversed about. I'm all for it, (a tubes and klipsch forum) but it seems over the years the interest for thermionic audio has waned around here. Or most the local members do not seem to be interested... It's all about home theater receivers, little chip amp sound exploder looking thingies, and pro sound gear. Watts are cheap these days, especially when one can care less about sound quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Keith, I changed my statement about the exclusive section to reflect what you stated. Of course, now I'm even more confused. Why would the company reward inappropriate forum behavior by giving those individuals their own place to hang out? That makes even less sense than the current requirement of 5k posts!Having the tube related stuff buried within the 2 channel section is exactly why it should be separated. I've tried searching for specific tube related threads to no avail. Wouldn't it be better if a Google search for tubes/Klipsch took a person directly to a forum category for that? If you look at other forums, tube discussions are always kept as a separate category (in fact, AA as one example, even splits SETs out from other types of tube amps). Here we have a company whose products, for the most part, sound exquisite with tube electronics making no mention of that fact to the public! That, too, makes no sense. Look at advertising by Zu Audio, Tekton Design, and myriad other speaker companies and you will find all kinds of information about suitable amplifiers for their products. Klipsch is missing out on a free marketing opportunity here! If you search for speakers suitable for use with tube amps you will rarely see any mention of Klipsch; and when it is mentioned it is usually in the context of their having some suitable speakers which are "dinosaurs." We all know that's a load of garbage. I've "sold" many pairs of Reference and Heritage series speakers by simply demonstrating what they can do with tube amps.Wdecho also makes good points. I disagree however regarding the cost of quality SET sound. It does not have to cost a fortune to achieve this, and that mode of operation is perfect for beginners interested in DIY projects. I will not gain anything by having the separate forum section other than not boring those who are disinterested by posting tube related threads in the 2 channel section. There are many tube guys on here who are willing to share their knowledge for no other gain than to help others who want to give that mode of listening a try. That's my view of the situation.Maynard Edited July 25, 2015 by tube fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Richard Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I am sure there are websites that focus mostly on trailing edge technology. The best discussions on tube equipment would be there. This is a loudspeaker manufacturer's website, and I have found that Klipsch speakers will sound fine with just about whatever is driving them. The best sound I have heard from stock Khorns was from solid state equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 This is a loudspeaker manufacturer's website It most certainly is but Paul Klipsch started his company with the use of tube gear exclusively until maybe the 60's when SS amps came in to play. Tubes and Heritage Klipsch go together like peanut butter and jelly. I have found that Klipsch speakers will sound fine with just about whatever is driving them. I too have come to the same conclusion. The best sound I have heard from stock Khorns was from solid state equipment. I would have to agree with this also but have never heard Khorns with a tube amp. La Scalas and Corn Scalas I have and they sounded wonderful. I think a sub forum for tube gear within the 2 Channel section would be a great idea. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Having the tube related stuff buried within the 2 channel section is exactly why it should be separated. I've tried searching for specific tube related threads to no avail. Wouldn't it be better if a Google search for tubes/Klipsch took a person directly to a forum category for that? Maynard Why dont you use the simple "my content" function to narrow down your content searching... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thesloth Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Willland brings up a good point. The heritage line of speakers were designed to be used with tube gear, hence the efficiency. Not saying they can't be used with solid state gear but they were designed when tubes were the only technology. Hopefully this isn't going to be a tubes vs sand debate because both technologies have their ups and downs. I don't think you can just put tubes in the two channel section because I know people whom run tube monoblocks for each channel in a surround sound configuration. Klipsch speakers are special in regard to they are a good match for tube amplifiers. I still think it's cool to see the reaction on peoples face when they see a tube amp I built bumpin through some Klipsch. They say "what are those bulbs for?". People don't know what tubes are anymore and they get fascinated with them. Things go around and around, vinyl is big again. Maybe tubes will become popular with the kids, who knows. I agree with Maynard in that I do think it will add traffic to this website which is what they want right? Maybe Klipsch needs to start an amplifier line. I can see the Klipsch logo silk screened on some 300B's powering some K'horns You get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) It was originally created as a place that certain outcast members were allowed to discuss things that polluted other named forums, rather than just ban those retards. If I recall, I was chosen (among others) for the BS forum...which was originally called "Gloves Off". When other forums were "polluted" with usually a couple posters going round and round trying to be witty with insults, they were selected for the forum to hash it out. Only over time it turned into a political yammer fest... You could also ask the administrator to be allowed on the forum...did you ask, or was selected? Edited July 25, 2015 by mike stehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniper Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I am with you Maynard. Lots of knowledgeable tube people with info that should be documented and discussed in a separate place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasqwatch Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I also would enjoy a sub section dedicated to tubes and Klipsch. I see no down side to it. As Maynard stated it would keep threads from being buried in the two channel, may also help Klipsch with advertising. Win win. Stacy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thesloth Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Here is the original brochure for the Klipschorn: http://images.klipsch.com/Brochure_491101_635164772981548000.pdf If you go to page 3 under "Associated Apparatus" you will see they recommend a Brook amplifier specific model 12a, which is a push pull 2A3 amp. Here is a schematic for the amp: http://www.ampslab.com/SCHEMATICS/Brook12A.gif Edited July 25, 2015 by thesloth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Keep the excellent comments coming guys! I know there are a lot of forum members lurking in the background who are enjoying their Klipsch speakers with restored vintage Scott, Fisher, Mac, and other tube amps (as well as Craig's and Justin's amps). So, let's hear from you with your thoughts on this question! And to answer Schu and Don, if there's a separate tubes section you certainly don't have to look at it! Its presence should not bother you in any way and should not detract from your participation in, or enjoyment of, those sections of which you do approve. I have no interest in home theater, subs, pro audio, headphones , or personal music systems and could care less that we have those sections. Yet, I would not suggest that those sections not be available. I could also make the claim for not having a headphone section since that could be included in 2 channel as well. Maynard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I also would enjoy a sub section dedicated to tubes and Klipsch. I see no down side to it. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I see no downside, but think 2 Channel section is adequate. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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