A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) but my "little" Martin Logan Depth w/ (3) servo controlled sealed 8" woofers is fairly badass. You would like that one AU1C Is that the musical one or the HT one? don't you know by now you cant use a musical sub for HT Edited September 2, 2015 by A1UC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 If you are not using a subwoofer for two channel you are missing at least an octave of bass during playback. I only know of one pair of speakers that could truly reproduce 20Hz - 20Khz and the company and technology are no longer around. (Louis Erath's LWE-I's with a clip-kitted amplifier) Try the Titanic soundtrack on your 2-channel set up as there is a track with some very nice low end. Then take it to you HT and play it there you will easily notice the missing octave. Unless you listen to musical content that is primarily above 50-60Hz range and higher I would say you don't need a subwoofer. Otherwise it is a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 If you are not using a subwoofer for two channel you are missing at least an octave of bass during playback. I only know of one pair of speakers that could truly reproduce 20Hz - 20Khz and the company and technology are no longer around. (Louis Erath's LWE-I's with a clip-kitted amplifier) Try the Titanic soundtrack on your 2-channel set up as there is a track with some very nice low end. Then take it to you HT and play it there you will easily notice the missing octave. Unless you listen to musical content that is primarily above 50-60Hz range and higher I would say you don't need a subwoofer. Otherwise it is a must. http://www.josephaudio.com/perspecs these are the speakers I use for my 2 Ch and would never add a sub and destroy the sound , again to each their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstrickland1 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 but my "little" Martin Logan Depth w/ (3) servo controlled sealed 8" woofers is fairly badass. You would like that one AU1C Is that the musical one or the HT one? don't you know by now you cant use a musical sub for HT No seriously you'd like the Depth I think. I believe it has what you're looking for. If you ever come across one you should give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 but my "little" Martin Logan Depth w/ (3) servo controlled sealed 8" woofers is fairly badass. You would like that one AU1C Is that the musical one or the HT one? don't you know by now you cant use a musical sub for HT No seriously you'd like the Depth I think. I believe it has what you're looking for. If you ever come across one you should give it a try. I agree it looke like a killer sub and if I did add a sub I for sure would give that one a try , but Im happy with my 2ch sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) http://www.josephaudio.com/perspecs these are the speakers I use for my 2 Ch and would never add a sub and destroy the sound , again to each their own Those are admittedly for reproducing unamplified acoustic music. If that's what you listen to then I'm sure they'd do great. For some of us, two 5.5" woofers and a single tiny 2.75" port just isn't going to cut it. Obviously we are all talking about different types of music and listening levels here. Edited September 2, 2015 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sorry don't do rap Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 The detail imaging separation is unreal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Sorry don't do rap Low B on a 5-string bass... 31 hz. contrabassoon... 29 hz Low A on a normal piano... 27 hz. contra-trombone... 24 hz 7+ string bass guitar... 23 hz boesendorfer grand piano... 21 hz the aforementioned Moog Taurus bass pedal... big 20 hz boost keyboard... 20 hz pipe organ... 16 hz. contra-clarinet... 16 hz tuba... 16 hz using a flutter-tongue method William Hill & Son Grand Organ in Sydney... 8 hz Ironically... most rap is in the 40-60 hz range. Your speakers would do rap better than most of the stuff named above. I listen to rap every day including this morning on towers that have two 7" woofers, works fine. Edited September 2, 2015 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 What speaker are you using for music listening? Or do you use the same speaker for HT also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I use RF-7ii's crossed over at 60 hz along with two 18's powered by a Crown 2502 boosted 6 db. Yes it's both music and movies. But really the only music I listen to on them is rock and Jack Johnson so I can get away with it. I like this setup for stuff like Tool. The only true acoustical'ish stuff I listen to is the phantom of the opera. My living room setup is some old Wharfedale towers with soft dome tweets. Nothing special. I'm hardly an audiophile, I just rock out on stuff. Edited September 2, 2015 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busht4169 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I use RF-7ii's crossed over at 60 hz along with two 18's powered by a Crown 2502 boosted 6 db. Yes it's both music and movies. But really the only music I listen to on them is rock and Jack Johnson so I can get away with it. I like this setup for stuff like Tool. The only true acoustical'ish stuff I listen to is the phantom of the opera. My living room setup is some old Wharfedale towers with soft dome tweets. Nothing special. I'm hardly an audiophile, I just rock out on stuff. Don't rock out too hard, you could throw out your neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Edited September 2, 2015 by A1UC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busht4169 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Im going to have to bite my tongue and unfollow this thread , but hey thanks for making my day Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hey there!! You can't just leave in the middle of a drive-in movie!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I listen to rap every day including this morning on towers that have two 7" woofers, works fine. What speaker are you using for music listening? Or do you use the same speaker for HT also Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I use RF-7ii's crossed over at 60 hz along with two 18's powered by a Crown 2502 boosted 6 db. You better get your tape out and re measure... Edited September 2, 2015 by Tasdom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) If you are not using a subwoofer for two channel you are missing at least an octave of bass during playback. I only know of one pair of speakers that could truly reproduce 20Hz - 20Khz and the company and technology are no longer around. (Louis Erath's LWE-I's with a clip-kitted amplifier) Try the Titanic soundtrack on your 2-channel set up as there is a track with some very nice low end. Then take it to you HT and play it there you will easily notice the missing octave. Unless you listen to musical content that is primarily above 50-60Hz range and higher I would say you don't need a subwoofer. Otherwise it is a must. http://www.josephaudio.com/perspecs these are the speakers I use for my 2 Ch and would never add a sub and destroy the sound , again to each their own As uber nice as those speakers are and I am certain they sound fantastic but @ 35Hz on the low end response +/- 2db you are still missing an octave of bass response. :-) Which means everything on the chart you posted above will be inaudible to you. Edited September 2, 2015 by Frzninvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) As uber nice as those speakers are and I am certain they sound fantastic but @ 35Hz on the low end response +/- 2db you are still missing an octave of bass response. :-) Which means everything on the chart you posted above will be inaudible to you. I'm sure they're nice as hell and flat as a pancake on most stuff at the natural volume level of an acoustical performance. Some of us just aren't into that, I'd rather just put headphones on and save over 5 digits in my bank acccount. I want my seats to shake and no 5" woofer is going to do that. Edited September 2, 2015 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I listen to rap every day including this morning on towers that have two 7" woofers, works fine. You better get your tape out and re measure... My living room setup is some old Wharfedale towers with soft dome tweets. Nothing special. http://insidehifi.blogspot.com/2012/05/wharfedale-modus-eight.html Two 170mm woofers, equals 6.7". Frequency response only goes to 38 hz. Works fine on most rap, even in a 9,000 cubic foot room. I have an open architecture in my house so while I cook and eat I use these in the living room as background music, which is the same room as my kitchen and dining room. That's what I was talking about. If I'm doing any dedicated listening (I'll refrain from the use of the term "serious listening" due to the audiophiles here), I go in the theater room and fire up the RF-7ii's and the 18's. And no, I don't have any delusions that this could rival an audiophile setup. That's hardly my desire. Edited September 2, 2015 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Guess this got off topic , sorry my bad I now see what you guys are trying to point out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited September 2, 2015 by A1UC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Some people LOVE Heresy's and Lascalas for music with no sub and that's fine. It's all a matter of preference and I'm certainly not going to try to convince someone otherwise. My opinion however is that they're kidding themselves if they think they're hearing everything on every recording. I would take exception to that. I can not argue the fact that they enjoy what they're listening to though. I can't say that adding a sub to their system would make them enjoy it more either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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