CECAA850 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thanks, now if I could only find some nice black screws. Most hardware stores carry them as well as other colored screw heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thanks, now if I could only find some nice black screws. Most hardware stores carry them as well as other colored screw heads. What's a hardware store? But seriously, please support your local hardware store. Purchase items that you could get online or at the box stores, otherwise they won't be around to sell you black flat head screws. In Royal Oak, MI it's Frentz & Sons. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I have been amazed at how much our local Ace Hardware carries... small screws and bolts in English and metric sizes, black, stainless, socket head, cap head. Bruce 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 In Royal Oak, MI it's Frentz & Sons. Spent many hours at Frentz & Sons Hardware back in the day. There still there at Catalpa and Main? Wow, brings back memories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 In Royal Oak, MI it's Frentz & Sons. Spent many hours at Frentz & Sons Hardware back in the day. There still there at Catalpa and Main? Wow, brings back memories. Yes, they're still there at Main & Catalpa. They actually help and have knowledge regarding what they sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechnut Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Day 1 in the books. Went with 2 Cinema F20s for ease of build, cost and smaller cabinet. I did precut all my panels, against the advice of Carl. (I'll get smart by doing stupid....) 1 layout is done and both baffles are cut. Did work out the best way to install the hurricane nuts on some scrap wood so that I'll be prepared for that. I didn't want to crack open a tube of PL, just for those, and have to try to seal it back up until I'm ready to do final assemble. So tomorrow is layout 2, and assemble dry getting all the pocket wholes in place. Thanks for all the inputs!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I did precut all my panels, against the advice of Carl. (I'll get smart by doing stupid....) Glad I could be of service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 You're going to love those subs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Any progress on these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 9/13/2015 at 4:26 PM, jason str said: If pairing up with LaScala's or other shorter bass horn designs avoid tapped horns. Agreed. Unless it's Josh Ricci's OThorn, which is tapped, uses a killer B&C 21" driver, but with it's typical "2 octaves of tapped horn" working 25-110 Hz. and VERY musical. Having had my original "toe in the water" LAB-20 DIY tapped horn, Danley's DTS-10, Danley DTS-20 (widest band of all), Danley TH-50 (3 currently), and OThorn (currently), I can say the OThorn is the most "musical" while retaining plenty of impact. There are so many great DYI horn options now, and they ALL trounce any direct radiator (sealed or ported) box and save your electric bill in the process. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said: Agreed. Unless it's Josh Ricci's OThorn, which is tapped, uses a killer B&C 21" driver, but with it's typical "2 octaves of tapped horn" working 25-110 Hz. and VERY musical. Having had my original "toe in the water" LAB-20 DIY tapped horn, Danley's DTS-10, Danley DTS-20 (widest band of all), Danley TH-50 (3 currently), and OThorn (currently), I can say the OThorn is the most "musical" while retaining plenty of impact. There are so many great DYI horn options now, and they ALL trounce any direct radiator (sealed or ported) box and save your electric bill in the process. I always recommend horns but some don't listen or have their mind set on something else. You know how it is, the customer is always right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zobsky Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 9/13/2015 at 3:26 PM, jason str said: If pairing up with LaScala's or other shorter bass horn designs avoid tapped horns. I can think of a couple of reasons , depending on the particular TH design in question, but - could you elaborate exactly what you mean. My belle's go down to about 60 Hz unported or 35 Hz ported Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, zobsky said: I can think of a couple of reasons , depending on the particular TH design in question, but - could you elaborate exactly what you mean. My belle's go down to about 60 Hz unported or 35 Hz ported Thanks Lower distortion & better sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, zobsky said: I can think of a couple of reasons , depending on the particular TH design in question, but - could you elaborate exactly what you mean. My belle's go down to about 60 Hz unported or 35 Hz ported Thanks Tapped horns get a little ragged the higher you go. A Lascala needs a horn that will play cleanly up to the point the Lascals drops off which is high due to it's short bass horn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, zobsky said: I can think of a couple of reasons , depending on the particular TH design in question, but - could you elaborate exactly what you mean. My belle's go down to about 60 Hz unported or 35 Hz ported Thanks Horn loading for the La Scala ends around 100 Hz or so, i recommend crossing over to the sub between 80-100 Hz if you have the option to do so, The blend is seamless and adds so much depth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 6 hours ago, zobsky said: I can think of a couple of reasons , depending on the particular TH design in question, but - could you elaborate exactly what you mean. My belle's go down to about 60 Hz unported or 35 Hz ported Thanks Yes, I know about the port, but it's still weak bass relative to the Flethcher-Munson or ISO Equal Loudness curves. Plus the IM distortion goes up. But if you are happy, then more power to you. I prefer to have bass that matches the sound of what I hear from a live heavey bass instrument, as close as possible. You don't get that when you are 10 db down. It's even worse when if there is an unequalized 140 Hz PEAK from the LS or Belle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On 2/16/2017 at 0:45 PM, jason str said: I always recommend horns but some don't listen or have their mind set on something else. You know how it is, the customer is always right. Indeed. I just takes way more drivers to try and do what good horn subs do so well, which is LOW DISTORTION at High SPL with way fewer WATTS. Bad trade, but hey let them wallow in their false sense of accomplishment, as long as you get paid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Whatever happened to OP, Beechnut? His last post in this thread was a year ago. We never got to see photos of the finished project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Well @Beechnut ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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