Mallette Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 First, I don't mean that in the sense of a competition. It is simply a contrast. There are many of us who are half both and those who are more one than the other. Neither is better...just different. I will state my values as a music lover and I believe these to be general to why music lovers come to the high quality audio reproduction table: 1. Timeless music that has, or will, remain with us as long as humanity exists. 2. Performance at the highest level of artistry and passion humans can manage. 3. Recordings made by those who value 1 and 2 and employ available tools with the intent to create a record (generic use of the term) with the highest level of accuracy possible. The above doesn't leave out artificially created music. Alan Parsons and many others handle all three with excellence in producing music that exists only when it is reproduced. Those who hold with the above are going to be format and media agnostic. For those whose passion is the music a grungy 78 dug out of a box in a barn of an unknown Delta blues performer is a life changing event. We do not hear the medium, we hear the magic and it is transformative. Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm a music lover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I like red meat, music, with a nice glass of California cabernet, post making love to the wife and her falling asleep so I can just have control listening to songs I want (actually our tastes don't differ too much, but she more a Dan Fan than I) to. If I was any good it can be a decent volume with no complaints. Edited September 14, 2015 by jacksonbart 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Music Lover that lost his way trying to become an Audiophile, now taking a step back and concentrating on music again 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I guess we all need to have a label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I liken audiophiles to classic Mustang guys who are restoration fans. They want the original factory parts if at all possible. New-old stock is what they strive for. If it has original factory markings, that's like a wet dream to them. They will even go so far as to get period-correct batteries. Meaning, it's more about reproducing what the car was originally intended to be rather than the actual enjoyment of the finished car. Me personally, I'd rather have Ken Block's Hoonicorn. I have about the same mindset when it comes to music reproduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Here's what is telling, statistically: Distribution by sex of audio forum regulars: 95% men, 5% women Distribution by sex of concert attendees (music lovers) 50% men, 50% women 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 There are many of us who are half both and those who are more one than the other. Do you think they're mutually exclusive? I think one could enjoy both pursuits - or maybe you're asking how much time / money / effort is spent on one versus the other? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) If you are in a friend's car and hear a great song by Dream Theater you have not heard in a long time... Do you: 1) Say this sound system sucks. 2) Think this song rocks, reach over and turn it up and start playing air guitar and sing along. 3) Punch the driver in the ribs cause you just saw a VW bug. 4) Wish the DAC was better. 5) Ask how much longer until we reach Arby's. ??? Edited September 14, 2015 by jacksonbart 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muel Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 By the time I read number 5 I got hungry and forgot the other choices. Going to lunch now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I like women, Who like music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I like to have "Women I've Never Had". - Hank Williams Jr. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 14, 2015 Moderators Share Posted September 14, 2015 Music lover only, and I can prove it. I have not changed any settings, electronics or speakers in years but have listened to plenty of music. My choice of speakers are the one's playing, not necessarily the best I have. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think one could enjoy both pursuits - or maybe you're asking how much time / money / effort is spent on one versus the other? Not at all. Covered it in the original post, I think. But many are pretty exclusive to one side or the other. Those predominately of the "music" side may well have a large dose of equipment love as well and tweak this and that...hard to tell unless you know them. But the acute audiophile is clearly revealed in those who revile any recording that has an audible noise of any kind or is not flat from DC to light. That position doesn't bother me at all. I am only bothered when some with that attitude seem unable to comprehend that others are in it PURELY for the music and that is also a perfectly good reason to have a first class audio system. Whether it be an acoustic 78 or a 5.8mhz DSD surround file, no music can sound any better than the system it's played back on. For those of us with very wide interests in music the vast majority of great music isn't available other than in the original medium except via transcriptions...which rarely live up to the original. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckAb3 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I fall mostly on the music side and always have. I have good gear and enjoy accurate sound reproduction, but frankly don't care to debate the finer points and find myself getting bored with it in short order, with all due respect to some very fine and knowledgeable folks who see it differently. For what it's worth, I find myself playing a lot more music these days and listening less than I used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieStl Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Music lover only, and I can prove it. I have not changed any settings, electronics or speakers in years but have listened to plenty of music. My choice of speakers are the one's playing, not necessarily the best I have. But you have to ask yourself if you sometimes listen to certain music or songs because they sound good on a good system. That is the only explanation I can come up with as to why you guys got busted in Hope last year while listening to a gawd awful song like Thriller at 5 am. I'm just saying...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I mentioned the Benny Goodman/Gene Krupa 78 that has me so pumped. I think it's a good example. You could get the very best living big band musicians together with the finest engineers we have to offer along with bleeding edge recording technology...and there is no way you'd come away with a recording that good. It would have inaudible noise, include every nuance, and provide perfect perspective on each and every instrument and might even be exciting. But it could never be Goodman, Krupa, and the band. Just last night I listened to "Pine Top's Boogie Woogie," 1928. First record to ever use the term "boogie woogie" in the name and by one of the finest to ever play that genre. There again one can transcribe it, transcode it, or whatever...but you can't improve it. It was perfect when it was made and it still is. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I am a music lover. Don't you have to be smart, or think you are smart to be an audiophile? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Music lover only, and I can prove it. I have not changed any settings, electronics or speakers in years but have listened to plenty of music. My choice of speakers are the one's playing, not necessarily the best I have. OK, but can you explain what hobby drives you to have over 17,000 posts on this forum? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 i come here to chat with scumbags. i usually listen to music while doing so. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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