USNRET Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Having carefully measured post spacing at 8' with a 12" post hole I then assured that the post was plumb and just kissing the mason string before adding 160 lbs of sakcrete to the hole. What I didn't do was make sure that the lateral spacing of the posts was correct in order to use 16 foot 2 x 4 top caps and 16 foot 2 x 10 bottom kick / rot boards so they would meet in the middle of the post. A 12" hole leaves a lot of room for error! This is not a one man job in the rain and then the rubber band holding the post level breaks; screw this, time for a drink. Edited January 15, 2016 by USNRET 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiminSTL Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 From one Navy man to another, BZ on that last decision! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MORE KLIPSCH PLEASE Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Man oh man..... Good luck with that fence...... I paid someone to put my fence up..... If it involves any thing to do with wood.....I'm out..... give me some metal and a welder....I'm in....lol lol MKP :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 I got several quotes to put it in. IF I get it in I will save about $3500 in labor plus I am using double the concrete and 6x6x12 at gate posts (building on sand and a calm day here is 20 mph winds). I rented an auger over Christmas and got the holes in with the plan of installing over the holidays; it's been raining every friggin' day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Back when I was full of vinegar and liked to butt heads with trees I set posts and rails for 150' of privacy fence. After I had posts cemented and had nailed about 40' of pickets my next door neighbor came over and went thru his rehearsed spiel about property lines. Ya see, the smart *** waited about a week until I had a lot of the work done before he came over with his revelation. After setting him up so that he could continue with his intellectual orgasm I asked him if he knew his chain link fence ran slightly diagonally down his property line on my side of his house. He wanted to discuss that further so I went inside and got a plat. After he figured out that he didn't know what he was talking about he left. Since I had bought plenty material I added another 20' feet down our adjoining property line which phucked up the corridor that he thought he had left setting his fence off his property line. I moved 12 years later and left the fence where it stood. His BS added the little extra energy I needed to get the job done. Keith 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Last fence i put up was over an old house foundation. Nothing like jack hammering old concrete out of half the post holes to get the job done. Just saying it could be worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 Keith, my neighbor decided I needed a new survey so I did; it fell exactly where the existing stakes were. I laid off 6" from the line to his favor. Next time his bride comes over banging on the door at midnight asking for help............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORE KLIPSCH PLEASE Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Back when I was full of vinegar and liked to butt heads with trees I set posts and rails for 150' of privacy fence. After I had posts cemented and had nailed about 40' of pickets my next door neighbor came over and went thru his rehearsed spiel about property lines. Ya see, the smart *** waited about a week until I had a lot of the work done before he came over with his revelation. After setting him up so that he could continue with his intellectual orgasm I asked him if he knew his chain link fence ran slightly diagonally down his property line on my side of his house. He wanted to discuss that further so I went inside and got a plat. After he figured out that he didn't know what he was talking about he left. Since I had bought plenty material I added another 20' feet down our adjoining property line which phucked up the corridor that he thought he had left setting his fence off his property line. I moved 12 years later and left the fence where it stood. His BS added the little extra energy I needed to get the job done. Keith NICE..... Before my fence went up I got my property surveyed..... my fence is custom built 8' high..... I didn't want to see this a$$ hole again.....and I haven't..... MKP :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 You traded a badarse sound system for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) You traded a badarse sound system for that? Yes plus a future dog and a few things that the kiddos will enjoy more than my stereo. Getting to the end of my life cycle (NO not imminent) ; if these items were left here they would be given away or donated to Goodwill. Edited January 3, 2016 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Back when I was full of vinegar and liked to butt heads with trees I set posts and rails for 150' of privacy fence. After I had posts cemented and had nailed about 40' of pickets my next door neighbor came over and went thru his rehearsed spiel about property lines. Ya see, the smart *** waited about a week until I had a lot of the work done before he came over with his revelation. After setting him up so that he could continue with his intellectual orgasm I asked him if he knew his chain link fence ran slightly diagonally down his property line on my side of his house. He wanted to discuss that further so I went inside and got a plat. After he figured out that he didn't know what he was talking about he left. Since I had bought plenty material I added another 20' feet down our adjoining property line which phucked up the corridor that he thought he had left setting his fence off his property line. I moved 12 years later and left the fence where it stood. His BS added the little extra energy I needed to get the job done. Keith NICE..... Before my fence went up I got my property surveyed..... my fence is custom built 8' high..... I didn't want to see this a$$ hole again.....and I haven't..... MKP :-) Did you get the city permit for the fence? Sometimes they no likey. JJK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Why are you putting 160 pounds of concrete in a hole? You can usually get away with a 30 or 40 pound bag and then throw a gallon of water in. The rest of the concrete will draw the moisture from the soil. That was with 4x4s and dug to 42 inches to be below the frost line. I don't think you have to worry about that Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Keith, my neighbor decided I needed a new survey so I did; it fell exactly where the existing stakes were. I laid off 6" from the line to his favor. Next time his bride comes over banging on the door at midnight asking for help............. Bang her! Mark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 Why are you putting 160 pounds of concrete in a hole? You can usually get away with a 30 or 40 pound bag and then throw a gallon of water in. The rest of the concrete will draw the moisture from the soil. That was with 4x4s and dug to 42 inches to be below the frost line. I don't think you have to worry about that Mark We don't have a frost line here (well I guess we do but it would be 2" every 15 years). I live on sand so it's not stable. I always over engineer stuff and I want no issue with the prevailing wind blowing against the fence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Having carefully measured post spacing at 8' with a 12" post hole I then assured that the post was plumb and just kissing the mason string before adding 160 lbs of sakcrete to the hole. What I didn't do was make sure that the lateral spacing of the posts was correct in order to use 16 foot 2 x 4 top caps and 16 foot 2 x 10 bottom kick / rot boards so they would meet in the middle of the post. A 12" hole leaves a lot of room for error! This is not a one man job in the rain and then the rubber band holding the post level breaks; screw this, time for a drink. Youtube video this critter, wile enjoying a libation. I never have a question that some one has not made a video on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Speaking of a fencing project, i'll go out and take a few pics to show everyone how Chicken Chit "Most Burb" dwelling owners are (in Calif). You will not friggin belive this. Edited January 3, 2016 by minermark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) For you're reading enjoyment: Front view of my house on the left, neighbor on the right, wood fence splitting the propertys. Rear pic of my driveway, backside of the gate, looks pretty wide eh? Afew years back the neighbors house was for sale, during that sale mine went up for sale. Both are were then vacant, 80+ year old neighbor i met movimg in told me his son built the fence before he moved in. just like a lot of these No Class youngins today, they dont see anyone around, they take what they want. i bought just a few months after the old man moved in. Upon looking at my surveyed property lines, im kind of freaking out seeing fresh cut concrete encroching right into my 30+year old slab driveway. as you can clearly see by the Pics Talked to the old guy one day, showed him the cut(s) into my driveway, and he said sure, iv no problem with you moving it back to where it belongs, then he ask's, by the way Mark, how far would that be? 12" inches richard, Then, i got "The Look". So iv said nothing since, no biggie for now. When he passes on, the escrow nightmare alone with give me Two Months to move it back according to survey marker(s). Some time this year i will call in a survey for $300 and get a certified/city approved document just to cover my azz when it gets sold......i can wait it out Edited January 4, 2016 by minermark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Good luck with the fence. Too bad you don't have a helper. I was just looking at my fences today. It's getting about time to replace. I'm going 8' this time (from 6'). The neighbor behind me recently replaced his back porch light with a double-lamp LED super bight flood light that spills over into my yard and into my house. It's like an aircraft landing light shinning into my bedroom window. Sometimes it's on all night. Of course his light violates the city ordinance for spill over light, but I figure the 8' fence is the best cure. A city permit required since I am changing the fence height. I'm considering a contractor this time. I've never hired anyone before to put up a fence, but this time I am considering a 2' stone fence with a 6' cedar fence on top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minermark Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Good luck with the fence. Too bad you don't have a helper. I was just looking at my fences today. It's getting about time to replace. I'm going 8' this time (from 6'). The neighbor behind me recently replaced his back porch light with a double-lamp LED super bight flood light that spills over into my yard and into my house. It's like an aircraft landing light shinning into my bedroom window. Sometimes it's on all night. Of course his light violates the city ordinance for spill over light, but I figure the 8' fence is the best cure. A city permit required since I am changing the fence height. I'm considering a contractor this time. I've never hired anyone before to put up a fence, but this time I am considering a 2' stone fence with a 6' cedar fence on top. I like it. Polk around on your local CL. Ask the guy for an adress he did work at or two, go check it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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