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Hi Everyone,

 

I recently acquired the following 5.1 speaker setup below. It came with an old Yamaha receiver that does not have any HDMI inputs. I am in need of help choosing a new receiver that would meet my needs. I have a computer desktop tower hooked up via HDMI from the graphics card output directly to my Sony LED. I now want everything to run through my new receiver. Please help!

 

Subwoofer: RW-10 http://www.klipsch.com/products/rw-10-subwoofer

 

Surround: RS-25 http://www.klipsch.com/products/rs-25-surround-speaker

 

Front: RF-15 http://www.klipsch.com/products/rf-15-floorstanding-speaker

 

Center: RC-25 http://www.klipsch.com/products/rc-25-center-speaker

 

Thanks everyone!

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This is going in my living room as a home theater, which for now is nothing big, maybe 20'x30'. The couch faces the tv and is about 15' away.

 

Is there a specific model that you recommend? Just want to make sure I can hook everything up properly. Does it make sense to get a 7.1 receiver and bi-amp anything?

 

Thanks,

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That's actually a pretty large area to fill for home theater for those speakers. I have the RF-35 system (8" version) and half your space (12' X26') and they are just about the right size.

 

Reguardless I myself like Denon and anything within the 90 watt per channel and up would drive these fine, I would not bi-amp these speakers I doubt you would benifit much if at all.

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20' x 30' is quite large.

Don't worry about bi-amping.

Your set-up is third generation Reference and, imo, plays very well with Onkyo receivers.

I don't know your budget, but try for at least a midrange model. The model number will start with "TX-NR", then look for the first # to be 5 or 6. Such as TX-NR545, or slightly higher model TX-NR646.

The higher 7 or 8 models are often considered the sweet spot for performance, but may be out of your price range if you're buying new. For example, TX-NR747.

The middle number will tell you how old it is, for instance, TX-NR838 is slightly older and slightly better than the 747.

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20' x 30' is quite large.

Don't worry about bi-amping.

Your set-up is third generation Reference and, imo, plays very well with Onkyo receivers.

I don't know your budget, but try for at least a midrange model. The model number will start with "TX-NR", then look for the first # to be 5 or 6. Such as TX-NR545, or slightly higher model TX-NR646.

The higher 7 or 8 models are often considered the sweet spot for performance, but may be out of your price range if you're buying new. For example, TX-NR747.

The middle number will tell you how old it is, for instance, TX-NR838 is slightly older and slightly better than the 747.

 

The problem with the new Onkyo receivers is the room calibration or lack of. I looked at them before going with the Denon X4100W, that was the biggest draw back. Just a opinon but something a new buyer should be aware of if HT is the main focus.

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Any of the main brands will suit you fine. This question is asked a lot and it always ends with each of us recommending the brand or brands that we've had good luck with. Look for the specs and features that you want at a price point that makes you comfortable and each of the big brands will work just fine.

Your room is on the large side, so your bigger issue could be whether your speakers and sub will perform well enough to fill the room. That will be up to you to decide after you get things hooked up and dialed in.

Best advice, best to spend your money on the speakers that will perform best first (even if it's only a pair of towers to start) with mediocre electronics than to get state of the art electronics with speakers that can't do the job. Just my $0.02.

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I haven't really thought of a price range yet. Are the speakers I mentioned worth spending more for a better receiver?

 

What are the advantages between spending around $300 vs $600 and above?

 

If you buy a $300 AVR, don't be upset when the sound isn't very good for movies and especially music.

 

 

Check this site. Great service and great prices. 

 

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/avreceiver/home-audio/receivers-amps/home-theater-receivers/1.html

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I've owned a few pairs of RF-15's and I don't think you'll see much benefit going with a high-end receiver. You can try buying used, but model numbers and prices are all over the place.

I honestly wouldn't spend much more than $300 to power those speakers.

Maybe pick up a 7.1 receiver and then keep an eye out for a used pair of RF-25's(major upgrade and probably best Klipsch value model ever at ~$200) and reassign the RF-15's as rear surrounds.

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I haven't really thought of a price range yet. Are the speakers I mentioned worth spending more for a better receiver?

What are the advantages between spending around $300 vs $600 and above?

The speakers you have are just fine... But, if they're going into a huge 20'x30' room, then they may not deliver the performance you're wanting/expecting. Regardless of the receiver you have or end up with, they'd do a better job (particularly for 5.1 HT) in a smaller room.

As others have mentioned, the known name brands (Denon, Pioneer, Yamaha, Onkyo, Marantz, etc) will all work fine. Generally, once you get up around the $500-$600 range, you'll have solid all-channel power and enough connectivity/features to handle most single room 5.1/7.2 setups.

Spending more, above the $600 range, generally gets you an incremental increase in power output and better all-channel power ratings. And more features.. such as Dolby Atmos (9 to 11 channel capable), second zone, better room correction (auto setup & EQ), additional HDMI, etc.

Essentially it will be what works best and integrates into your current equipment/needs.

For your own reference... You might want to hook the RF-15's up to the old receiver and listen to them in the new room and see what they sound like. If the old receiver can accommodate the sub, add it as well and see what the 2.1 setup sounds like before you buy anything new.

You might find yourself wanting a larger floorstanding model, if your room really is that large.

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I owned the 667...it's fine for what it is and drove an RF62 system and a 3.1 CF3/KV4 system just fine. Not my most favorite receiver I've owned but no slouch either. Just don't expect to run at ear splitting levels and it'll be fine.

Get yourself an SPL meter though. I was not at all impressed by their room correction software (YPAO).

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I have narrowed it down to the Denon AVR-S710W and the Yamaha RX-V667. Both are pretty much the same price. Which would be a better purchase?

 

Get something with Audyssey XT32.  I think most current Denon and Marantz have it.

 

Given your large room, instead of getting an AVR, you might want to get an AV Preamp-processor and a separate, powerful multichannel power amp.  Again, the pre-pro should have Audyssey XT32. 

 

How powerful is powerful?  100 true watts or more ... maybe 200 or more.  I say "true watts" because the trouble with many AVRs is that they don't deliver their rated power if all channels are operating ... they are often rated with "2 channels operating," and will only deliver about 80% (or less) of that with all channels operating. 

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I have narrowed it down to the Denon AVR-S710W and the Yamaha RX-V667. Both are pretty much the same price. Which would be a better purchase?

 

If you can swing it I would go with a X series Denon, those specs on the S series are so far out of wack I have no idea how there testing that output.

The X1200W will give you far better room calibration and I would bet my bottom dollar it will be more powerful than the S710W.

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