The Dude Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I think this has been asked before. But is there much of a difference in performance between the Lascala I with bracing and the II with just the 1" MDF. I ask as I am contemplating building a Lascala. I can get 1" mdf at about $75.00 a sheet, but its heavy and I hate working with mdf. I can get 3/4" BB at about the same price, just easier to work with. Plus I can have Menards rough cut it to fit in the back of the Jeep. The MDF I would need to get my trailer. I would then order Fastlane's easy braces as I have a second Lascala that could use it. To me it makes since to go with the 3/4" BB, as it would then match my other one I have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Both scenarios take away the resonating panels. Your disadvantages would be weight with the MDF and plywood version is a few more cuts, some glue, maybe a few tacks to hold the braces in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMcD Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Opinions are like belly buttons; everybody has one. My opinion is that you're right to follow you instinct and go with braced 3/4 plywood. I have not seen anyone who was able to compare the LS II to a braced LS. But the bracing IMOH has to be as functional as the one inch MDF. I have a grudging respect for the decision at Klipsch to fold the Belle approach and LS approach into a new design. It is not as pretty as a Belle but it does have its own esthetics. Maybe some bean counter thought that keeping the Belle and LS in production was too expensive. There is something to be said for using the K-400 universally. It arguably makes the LS-II a better center channel for K-Horns and the LS-II and K-Horn crossovers can be very similar. WMcD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) I think this has been asked before. But is there much of a difference in performance between the Lascala I with bracing and the II with just the 1" MDF. I ask as I am contemplating building a Lascala. I can get 1" mdf at about $75.00 a sheet, but its heavy and I hate working with mdf. I can get 3/4" BB at about the same price, just easier to work with. Plus I can have Menards rough cut it to fit in the back of the Jeep. The MDF I would need to get my trailer. I would then order Fastlane's easy braces as I have a second Lascala that could use it. To me it makes since to go with the 3/4" BB, as it would then match my other one I have. Why would you even want to build a short horn that takes up a huge amount of floor space and is only 2.5 feet long when you have already built a 3 1/2 foot long folded horn that can be used in or out of a corner? Build a Quarter Pie that is 5.5 feet, a tiny bit more floor space than a LaScala in a corner, uses the whole corner and goes a full octave lower, or just use what you have and work on a better top end. My goodness. That way you can have superior bass defninition and forget about these short horns. Edited January 28, 2016 by ClaudeJ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Why would you even want to build a short horn that takes up a huge amount of floor space and is only 2.5 feet long when you have already built a 3 1/2 foot long folded horn that can be used in or out of a corner? Build a Quarter Pie that is 5.5 feet, a tiny bit more floor space than a LaScala in a corner, uses the whole corner and goes a full octave lower, or just use what you have and work on a better top end. My goodness. That way you can have superior bass defninition and forget about these short horns. Because its fun. Believe it or not, for some odd reason I really enjoy the Lascala sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalawag Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Why would you even want to build a short horn that takes up a huge amount of floor space and is only 2.5 feet long when you have already built a 3 1/2 foot long folded horn that can be used in or out of a corner? Build a Quarter Pie that is 5.5 feet, a tiny bit more floor space than a LaScala in a corner, uses the whole corner and goes a full octave lower, or just use what you have and work on a better top end. My goodness. That way you can have superior bass defninition and forget about these short horns. Because its fun. Believe it or not, for some odd reason I really enjoy the Lascala sound. Ha, no argument there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) thicker side wall is good but if you include the brace you also stiffen the dog house walls. At home playback levels the thicker side wall will deal with the cabinet resonance but if you were going full out levels the brace would still result in an improvement (you are not going to play full out or even close at home). For home not to worry. The LaScala with the thicker side walls do look a lot more substantial and the brace just adds that "I am really serious" look. Edited January 28, 2016 by moray james 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenarrow Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I used double 1/2" BB ply and braces. They feel rock solid compared to the stock LaS. I highly recommend the braces. I hate working with MDF too. That stuff is poison. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Why would you even want to build a short horn that takes up a huge amount of floor space and is only 2.5 feet long when you have already built a 3 1/2 foot long folded horn that can be used in or out of a corner? Build a Quarter Pie that is 5.5 feet, a tiny bit more floor space than a LaScala in a corner, uses the whole corner and goes a full octave lower, or just use what you have and work on a better top end. My goodness. That way you can have superior bass defninition and forget about these short horns. Because its fun. Believe it or not, for some odd reason I really enjoy the Lascala sound. Ha, no argument there!! Well, if you guys are partial to a 7 db peak at 140 Hz. with steep roll below 100 Hz. instead of extending the bass by a real octave, by all means do the silly thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Ha, no argument there!! You are right. After owning several pairs and refurbishing LaScalas, I stopped caring a long time ago. Over and out. Edited January 30, 2016 by ClaudeJ1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Ha, no argument there!! You are right. After owning several pairs and refurbishing LaScalas, I stopped caring a long time ago. Over and out. Oh Claude, don't leave we like having you around. Your wisdom is appreciated, just not the route I want to go this time. I just enjoy building and listening, something different. Besides it matches my avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Ha, no argument there!! You are right. After owning several pairs and refurbishing LaScalas, I stopped caring a long time ago. Over and out. Oh Claude, don't leave we like having you around. Your wisdom is appreciated, just not the route I want to go this time. I just enjoy building and listening, something different. Besides it matches my avatar. I'm not leaving, I just think LaScalas are an inefficient use of floor space and a waste of good lumber that could serve a better purpose, like build shelves for your music collection or Tuba sub. Edited January 30, 2016 by ClaudeJ1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacek Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I think Claude that you are claiming reality. I heard Quater pie. They delinitly go lower than Lascalas and sound really good. But they much larger than Lascalas. Not everyone keeps Lascalas in corners and even if does not everyone has free space around those corner. Lascalas perfectly feet my room but there is no way I could squeze there Quaterpie's. Maybe single one but not pair. So Quaterpie is not Lascalas replacement for every one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthews Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Because its fun. Believe it or not, for some odd reason I really enjoy the Lascala sound. +1 - La Scala or NOTHING!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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