ccdowenye Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I am originally from Flint and it makes me so sad to see what has become of my home town. That said, the leaders in Flint, when it became obvious that GM was slowly leaving, did not act accordingly in terms of preparing for life after GM and all the money-taxes that it brought to the city of Flint. What is now left is a poor, crumbling shadow of what was a pretty decent place to grow up and live back in the 60s-70s and 80s. I left in 82 and only went back to visit family (who have all left) and friends. I really feel for my fellow Flintstones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccdowenye Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I am originally from Flint and it makes me so sad to see what has become of my home town. That said, the leaders in Flint, when it became obvious that GM was slowly leaving, did not act accordingly in terms of preparing for life after GM and all the money-taxes that it brought to the city of Flint. What is now left is a poor, crumbling shadow of what was a pretty decent place to grow up and live back in the 60s-70s and 80s. I left in 82 and only went back to visit family (who have all left) and friends. I really feel for my fellow Flintstones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 I realize many are poor, but you would imagine that anything or any place is better than staying. You obviously have no concept of what it's like to be poor. Yes, I do. Stick to the subject matter. I'm not the subject here. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 I am originally from Flint and it makes me so sad to see what has become of my home town. That said, the leaders in Flint, when it became obvious that GM was slowly leaving, did not act accordingly in terms of preparing for life after GM and all the money-taxes that it brought to the city of Flint. What is now left is a poor, crumbling shadow of what was a pretty decent place to grow up and live back in the 60s-70s and 80s. I left in 82 and only went back to visit family (who have all left) and friends. I really feel for my fellow Flintstones. It must be heartbreaking. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I realize many are poor, but you would imagine that anything or any place is better than staying. You obviously have no concept of what it's like to be poor. Yes, I do.Stick to the subject matter. I'm not the subject here. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk No, you don't, otherwise you wouldn't have made the ignorant statement that anything or anyplace is better than staying. Ever tried to travel or find a place to sleep, or find food with no money? I have. Have you? The plight of the poor in Flint, and the water crisis there are very closely linked. The people in Flint are stuck, and pointing fingers and laying blame and throwing people in jail is not the answer. But that's your MO, pointing fingers and blaming others while espousing your own false intellectual capabilities. The only "contributions" you make to this forum are rooted in confrontation and anger. There are plenty of other people, websites and forums that cater to your methodology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 I realize many are poor, but you would imagine that anything or any place is better than staying.You obviously have no concept of what it's like to be poor.Yes, I do.Stick to the subject matter. I'm not the subject here. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk No, you don't, otherwise you wouldn't have made the ignorant statement that anything or anyplace is better than staying. Ever tried to travel or find a place to sleep, or find food with no money? I have. Have you? The plight of the poor in Flint, and the water crisis there are very closely linked. The people in Flint are stuck, and pointing fingers and laying blame and throwing people in jail is not the answer. But that's your MO, pointing fingers and blaming others while espousing your own false intellectual capabilities. The only "contributions" you make to this forum are rooted in confrontation and anger. There are plenty of other people, websites and forums that cater to your methodology. You wouldn't have the smallest clue about what I've done in my life. You're just on yet another high horse trying to turn every thread into a your chance to insult or attack me in some idiotic way. Go make some more fart jokes with the porn hounds. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 LET'S PLAY NICE... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Exactly the response I expected… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 LET'S PLAY NICE...Too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) "The people in Flint are stuck, and pointing fingers and laying blame and throwing people in jail is not the answer." This idea that criminals should be free of prosecution and never see jail has been sweeping the country since 2008. You hear this spouted all the time from certain radio stations and opinion sites. What they mean is that white collar crime, and business crime in particular should always be ignored in favor of just cleaning up the mess. But, of course one mess leads to the next, and the perps are just emboldened to endanger another group, another city for the purpose of making money from the weak, or the powerless, who are expected to take their dying children and go fade away. Flint needs to be fully investigated, and any criminal fraud, conspiracies, perjury, and other broken laws should be prosecuted fully. None of that precludes helping the people, or solving the problem. We can do more than one thing at a time. The people deserve a solution, and justice too. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Edited January 29, 2016 by jo56steph74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow#422 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Dis - Engage for the betterment of the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 As usual, you took my comment out of context, but then, I expected nothing less. I never said that they should be free from prosecution. You might want to read it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Dis - Engage for the betterment of the forum.And you are....who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow#422 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Squirt - ketchup not included. Have you made any donation to the cause? I'm within the state and feel compelled to assist. How about you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Perhaps another 7 or 8 decades of Democratic control? Best regards, John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Squirt - ketchup not included. Hey!! Let's go to Halo Burger..... (levity). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow#422 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Dis - Engage for the betterment of the forum.And you are....who? Flint's water solution problem is a multi million / billion dollar issue that our State government is not positioned to undertake. Should they step in, it will set a precedent that will inevitably bankrupt the state. There is NO way the State of Michigan can "fix" the problem any more that the national government can "fix" the looming issues with deteriorating infrastructure on a national basis. FWIW - I can be your biggest ally, or your most daunting opponent - pick one ! Edited January 29, 2016 by Arrow#422 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow#422 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Perhaps another 7 or 8 decades of Democratic control? Best regards, John Legislated involvement = YUCK at the highest level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Gee, do I have to? Considering that you have previously made disparaging remarks about my grandchildren I think I know the direction that I will take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow#422 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 To assist in re-directing your obvious tangent to the topic, Flint's water issue goes well beyond the State of Michigan's ability to remedy. IMHO, the Fed's will need to step in which will result in a HUGE financial precedent being set. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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