yamahaSHO Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 About 5 years ago I ended up a with a spare Klipsch driver from an RW-12d and couldn't scratch the itch of wanting to build with it. I hadn't built a sonosub yet at this point and always wanted to try it, so I did. To be honest, I could never stand the RW-12d. I had two of them and they creaked and port chuffed like crazy, even without much woofer movement. That said, when the driver was put in a better box, it really did well. The box is roughly 3.5 cu/ft and tuned to 20hz. I am driving the woofer with a PE BASH 300s. Shortly before beginning this build, I purchased a couple SVS PC12-NSD's to replace the two RW-12d's I had. I tried to make this sub look a lot like them as well match their performance and I think I did well in both areas. It actually exceeded my expectations. I am moving this year and have no desire to have another theater, so I've sold of a few of my theater stuff including the SVS subs. The plan is to use this sub as my only sub in my living room along with a 2-channel of my RF-62's. My theater never got used and I prefer music, so 2-channel + a sub should suit me well. Parts gathered. After some work with a circle jig and router. Test fit and ready for finishing After sanding the overlapping spiral down and many coats of polyurethane inside and out to seal out moisture. Some damping and painting. Starting to look like the SVS. The wife sewed a sock out of velvet and used the same grill that SVS uses, however, I really don't put it on. Base plate coated in DuraTex... I actually just recently did this. For several years, it had an uncoated base plate. Complete! I have had a "Klipsch" emblem from my dad's old La Scala's (he's owned since new in '82) that he took off when he refinished them years ago that I was going to put on the base plate of this, but I seemed to have misplaced it. And some testing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) That is a strange looking response. It actually looks solid at 15 Hz, but rolls off sharply at 50 Hz? I would not have expected much below 30 Hz and I would have looked for it to be solid up at least to 80 Hz. Shows what I know. Edited February 1, 2016 by wvu80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 It's taken at seating position in an untreated room. The idea was to see how it compared to the SVS sub I had, which I think shows it holding its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 It's taken at seating position in an untreated room. The idea was to see how it compared to the SVS sub I had, which I think shows it holding its own. Ah, thanks for the explanation. I fully admit I'm not a big charts and graphs guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalcomfort Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Nice build!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 That looks really nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Thank you. I've been pretty happy with it and I really love the way it looks (and performs). It kinda makes me want to build another... But I have the urge to build a horn sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) I've built plenty of horn subs. I want to build what you did now. I am very impressed! Never put the sub by the front door because gramps might throw his cigar in the hole in the top. How did you attach the wood to the sonotube? You tuned to 20Hz. Did you experiment first, or just use something like WinISD to calculate based on cylindrical volume? One more thing. External amp box? Edited February 7, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Thank you. I used Loc-Tite PL Premium to glue the end caps into the tube based off recommendations of others who had built Sonosubs. I did end up with a 20 Hz tune, however, I originally spec'd it out to a 22 Hz tune, but the port tube was a little longer than the Sonosub program sized, so I figured I'd try it before cutting. After trying it and testing it, Ed at SVS told me to leave it alone and run it as-is. I used the Sonosub program found here: http://www.subwoofer-builder.com/sonosub.htm I use a PE BASH 300s for the amplifier and it is separate. I plan to make something for it, but looking to move this year and will worry about it after the move. Edited February 7, 2016 by yamahaSHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Most excellent! I need to get some TS params for a ton of drivers I can build a sono sub with. Thank you for your responses!! Great! edit: I think I have my build... Thanks for the help! Starting a new thread... here is that thread: Dayton RSS390HO-4 SonoTube build thread Edited February 8, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) No problem. Good luck with your build. I actually enjoyed building mine and tried to make it look professional. I personally think it looked better than the SVS subs I had. I e-mailed Klipsch about seeing if they had any RT-12d drivers left as I wanted to try one in place of the RW-12d driver. I didn't get a response. I am curious to see what a more robust driver would do in the build. I actually built this on the bigger side in case I wanted or needed to replace with something beefier. I could just buy something from Parts Express, but I kind of like using the Klipsch drivers. Edited February 9, 2016 by yamahaSHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I have 3 dead subs, one with two drivers. I plan on either putting amps in the old boxes or building new subs with them. This gives me some great alternatives. The sub I am building will be using a sealed car sub I never put in a car. It's a brand new Dayton RSS390HO 15" driver that has never had voltage put to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 It's taken at seating position in an untreated room. The idea was to see how it compared to the SVS sub I had, which I think shows it holding its own. do you have the T/S parameters for this driver? i have a spare laying around as well and am wanting to build a sub for my dad with it. wanting to try a ported enclosure. but wither way need some specs and i remember you having this build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Sorry, I do not. I winged it by modeling it as an Infinity Kappa Perfect 12.1 as they were very similar to me. I think I did okay in doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 If you have the equipment, you can measure the T/S parameters. You need: a really good amp sine wave generator like a laptop or cell phone some wire a resistor a 1 cu ft sealed box this website http://www.readresearch.co.uk/measuring_ts_1.php this spreadsheet http://www.readresearch.co.uk/utilities/loudspeaker_toolkit.ods good multimeter Otherwise, you could build an enclosure with the same internal volume and port as the one the driver came out of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 I have had a spare Klipsch emblem from one of my Dad's 1981 LaScala's that he removed probably 15 years ago when he refinished them. I spent some time and cleaned it up and will mount it to the base plate with some double-sided tape. It looks nearly new now. Before: After: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Just curious, what did you use to clean it with?. Looks nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 Meguiars M205 and a microfiber towel. I finished it up with some ReJex to give it some protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamahaSHO Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Forgot to show the finished product with the emblem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthews Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said: Forgot to show the finished product with the emblem... Very cool build, Jason ...you got my wheels turning now - been itching to start something here soon Matt ♪ ♫ ♪ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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