oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Pagans not included? Other than those mentioned of course. Edited February 11, 2016 by oldtimer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 We have a pretty anemic ozone layer, which has a hard time protecting us from the scant solar radiation and UV. What kind of skin cream will they develop to keep us all from becoming barbecued by the 1e+13 watts of X-Rays and gamma rays? I'm only joking, because I am sure Hawking thought of this first. He's a hell of a lot smarter than me, and that's the first thing that came to mind when they quoted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 He lives in England. There is no sun there. Why do you think stone henge was such a big deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Well, don't over do it. You might end up blind. I'd rather be blind than dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Yeah, that was Einstein, endlessly beating his meat until he died of it. I should not be astonished, and yet I am. Well, if you're trying to compare blogging on the Klipsch forum to Einstein's pursuits, then there is greatness in all of us I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I'm not sure about I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Well, don't over do it. You might end up blind. I'd rather be blind than dead. afraid of death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I'm not sure about I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Well, don't over do it. You might end up blind. I'd rather be blind than dead. afraid of death? Yes, I exercise caution on a daily basis. I don't speed very much anymore, and I stopped flipping people off a long time ago. Either of those two things can get you killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 It is a good day to die. Actually it's incredibly beautiful today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 It is a good day to die. Little Big Man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 By the way the ozone layer prevents the water from the Earth evaporating into outer space as was the case with Mars. That's why they were concerned, not because of sunburns. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yes and of course the activities of man had nothing to do with it. Just ask your Fox and friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 and if it's a guess nobody can test, I will go back to my analogy of "beating one's meat." Yeah, that was Einstein, endlessly beating his meat until he died of it. I should not be astonished, and yet I am. Well, if you're trying to compare blogging on the Klipsch forum to Einstein's pursuits, then there is greatness in all of us I suppose. You didn't understand. Let me explain it to you. You said an untestable hypothesis was just beating the meat. I pointed out that Einstein's hypotheses were untestable until recently, and therefore, by your standards, he was just beating his meat. I obviously don't agree. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 My suggestion would be to inquire with Catholics, Jews, Hindi, Shintos, Buddhists, Humanists, or Protestants you may run into in daily life and see if any of them have a use for understanding the universe. No more or less than anyone else, best I can tell. Dave Hint: Where do the suppose their dead relations go? Why do some of them meditate? Who is it that many of them are confessing to? From whence come the ideas of nihilism? Pantheism? The Trinity? Manifest Destiny? Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) By the way the ozone layer prevents the water from the Earth evaporating into outer space as was the case with Mars. That's why they were concerned, not because of sunburns. JJK Huh? The Ozone layer protects Earthings from UV-B. That's what I'm talking about, and that is a fact! edit: On the brighter side, the Ozon holes are getting smaller. https://weather.com/science/environment/news/ozone-hole-closing-nasa Edited February 13, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The entire atmosphere keeps the good stuff in. It's best not to screw with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Does anyone have the actual paper related to the gravitational wave measurements? I'd like to learn more about their sensor configuration and all that.....the super nitty details, not the high level stuff. Back to Hawking - I have always found a stark contrast between Hawking and Einstein....in that Hawking is very much sensationalized and focuses on the fanciful. Einstein seemed way more grounded in reality. Perhaps that's the way Hawking is portrayed by the media, but I simply don't consider the two anywhere close to being in the same category. Has Hawking presented us with anything practical? I honestly don't know (that wasn't a rhetorical question). A quick glance through Wikipedia makes it sounds like all of his ideas have been contradicted by others? And lots of debates and challenges about things? Btw, don't forget that Einstein introduced us to the idea of "space-time" - which is to say the dimensions and time are one and the same (or intrinsically related). I've been meaning to sit down and run the special relativity mathematics to see what idea we can derive about how "fast" things were moving during a "Big Bang" or "Creation Event". The thing that surprises me is how similar the two mechanisms would manifest themselves. Why couldn't they be the same thing? I want to see what the different relativistic observation points would observe in terms of time elapsed. Perhaps someone has already conducted that analysis? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted February 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted February 13, 2016 Does anyone have the actual paper related to the gravitational wave measurements? I'd like to learn more about their sensor configuration and all that.....the super nitty details, not the high level stuff. Back to Hawking - I have always found a stark contrast between Hawking and Einstein....in that Hawking is very much sensationalized and focuses on the fanciful. Einstein seemed way more grounded in reality. Perhaps that's the way Hawking is portrayed by the media, but I simply don't consider the two anywhere close to being in the same category. Has Hawking presented us with anything practical? I honestly don't know (that wasn't a rhetorical question). A quick glance through Wikipedia makes it sounds like all of his ideas have been contradicted by others? And lots of debates and challenges about things? Btw, don't forget that Einstein introduced us to the idea of "space-time" - which is to say the dimensions and time are one and the same (or intrinsically related). I've been meaning to sit down and run the special relativity mathematics to see what idea we can derive about how "fast" things were moving during a "Big Bang" or "Creation Event". The thing that surprises me is how similar the two mechanisms would manifest themselves. Why couldn't they be the same thing? I want to see what the different relativistic observation points would observe in terms of time elapsed. Perhaps someone has already conducted that analysis? Dr. Who...I love you! Hope to see you in May in Hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Mike, somewhere back there I read about the first one second after the BB as best as we can figure it. Won't attempt to describe as I don't have enough understanding, but it was quite a read. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Hint: Where do the suppose their dead relations go? Why do some of them meditate? Who is it that many of them are confessing to? From whence come the ideas of nihilism? Pantheism? The Trinity? Manifest Destiny? Metaphysics, not physics. Irrelevant to this thread and would simply result in a lock anyway. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Does anyone have the actual paper related to the gravitational wave measurements? I'd like to learn more about their sensor configuration and all that.....the super nitty details, not the high level stuff. Back to Hawking - I have always found a stark contrast between Hawking and Einstein....in that Hawking is very much sensationalized and focuses on the fanciful. Einstein seemed way more grounded in reality. Perhaps that's the way Hawking is portrayed by the media, but I simply don't consider the two anywhere close to being in the same category. Has Hawking presented us with anything practical? I honestly don't know (that wasn't a rhetorical question). A quick glance through Wikipedia makes it sounds like all of his ideas have been contradicted by others? And lots of debates and challenges about things? Btw, don't forget that Einstein introduced us to the idea of "space-time" - which is to say the dimensions and time are one and the same (or intrinsically related). I've been meaning to sit down and run the special relativity mathematics to see what idea we can derive about how "fast" things were moving during a "Big Bang" or "Creation Event". The thing that surprises me is how similar the two mechanisms would manifest themselves. Why couldn't they be the same thing? I want to see what the different relativistic observation points would observe in terms of time elapsed. Perhaps someone has already conducted that analysis? What is practical about relativity? Einstein was very playful, and Hawking can't even speak. It's hard to imagine how 'fanciful' and 'sensational' are being applied here. I realize those at subjective, but I've never heard anyone inside or outside of science use those words for Hawking. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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