oldtimer Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Steve_S said: You are right... Of course he is. Fascists are right by definition.... (lmao, who could resist)mallette will get a kick out it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 There's a reason for that. Synthetics can be patented.Have you ever seen the video of the woman that went into the restroom and smoked synthetic marijuana...stripped naked and destroyed a fast food restaurant? Synthetic marijuana is a stupid idea when we have organic marijuana that is safe,a and actually helps people.Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/marijuana-might-help-aging-brains-191226326.html Where do we sign up for the clinical study? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/marijuana-might-help-aging-brains-191226326.html Where do we sign up for the clinical study? Too late.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, jimjimbo said: Too late.... I'll do independent research then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 10:56 PM, ellisr63 said: Synthetic marijuana is a stupid idea when we have organic marijuana that is safe,a and actually helps people. This appears to be another perfectly OK thing made bad by the laws. Had some of the stuff when it was legal in Texas, original K2. Very nice and apparently actually pretty much synthetic THC or very close. Then, they made it illegal and the makers kept changing the formula and it eventually apparently wound up pretty nasty. Went the same way as the "real" stuff. Perfectly good pastime rendered illegal and dangerous ignorance. Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, CECAA850 said: https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/marijuana-might-help-aging-brains-191226326.html Where do we sign up for the clinical study? From the article: Women’s health expert Jennifer Wider, MD, tells Yahoo Beauty she has some concerns. “It has been well-established that THC comes along with side effects — even in older people,” she says, listing anxiety, paranoid thinking patterns, drowsiness, slowed sense of time, and dizziness as examples. “More research will be needed before this could become an accepted therapeutic modality.” Ammerman agrees, noting that “there are still a lot of unanswered questions.” Yeah. We can't have any of that. Might as well go for a good margarita - or two! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 39 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: From the article: Women’s health expert Jennifer Wider, MD, tells Yahoo Beauty she has some concerns. “It has been well-established that THC comes along with side effects — even in older people,” she says, listing anxiety, paranoid thinking patterns, drowsiness, slowed sense of time, and dizziness as examples. “More research will be needed before this could become an accepted therapeutic modality.” Ammerman agrees, noting that “there are still a lot of unanswered questions.” Yeah. We can't have any of that. Might as well go for a good margarita - or two! Carl already has those, so how could they tell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Carl already has those, so how could they tell? But he's old. I bet they'd know once he found his way out of the maze! Didn't you read the article? Scientists first tested the mice on their ability to recognize familiar objects and navigate a water maze without the influence of THC and found that, while younger mice did well, older mice struggled. Once they were given THC, the younger mice had a drop in performance, but older mice showed improvement that lasted for weeks afterward — and even did as well as younger mice that had no THC. Breaking News! Carl beats young mouse out of maze! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Dizziness? Never seen a soul using the stuff get dizzy. Ditsy, yes. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Dang you guys pretty much have me pegged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Jeff that would be a martini not margarita. Everything else is spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 38 minutes ago, Mallette said: Dizziness? Never seen a soul using the stuff get dizzy. Ditsy, yes. Dave I've met a lot of dizzy souls, however...regardless of their drug of choice... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Bum Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Mallette said: This appears to be another perfectly OK thing made bad by the laws. Had some of the stuff when it was legal in Texas, original K2. Very nice and apparently actually pretty much synthetic THC or very close. Then, they made it illegal and the makers kept changing the formula and it eventually apparently wound up pretty nasty. Went the same way as the "real" stuff. Perfectly good pastime rendered illegal and dangerous ignorance. Dave From a pharmacological perspective, the synthetic THC analogs are quite a bit worse than the natural stuff. They have twice the affinity for cannabinoid receptors in our nervous system as actual THC. Tolerance builds rapidly, making it kind of pointless, and risky in terms of pulmonary and psychological health (compulsive/addictive behavior). The shit is bad news. If you really want the full blown "lab rat experience", then feel free to smoke synthetic THC analogs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ski Bum said: From a pharmacological perspective, the synthetic THC analogs are quite a bit worse than the natural stuff. Lost me at the first phrase as I've no qualifications in that area. Then you seem to reference multiple THC analogs. I think I made it clear that after the initial apparently close analog things got worse as the law kept forcing fast changes this stuff got really bad. Certainly scientifically reasonable that synthetic THC should be no more harmful than the natural stuff. But all bets are off when you have to start adding this or that to beat the "stuff that makes people feel happy" is bad crowd. Not much more I could add to this as I am not a chemist and have no medicinal training. But I do have skepticism when it comes from this crowd which has caused so much pain compared to that which they rail against. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Bum Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 They have an interesting history (well, if your a healthcare provider like me I suppose). They were initially developed to facilitate legitimate medical research into cannabinoid pathways, as THC is a controlled substance in most places, which precludes such research. (We're still suffering from that, with cannabis still inexplicably classified as a Schedule 1 drug...oops, political drift, sorry.) Anywho, of course it was subsequently used for recreational purposes, having similar effects as the real thing, only with much higher abuse potential. The specific compounds are all quite similar, allowing various peddlers to change from one formula to another as authorities caught on and began imposing controls. They were made illegal mainly due to use within the military ranks (the analogs don't result in a hot piss test), with some literally chain smoking the crap and getting all sorts of weird. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Jeff Matthews said: From the article: Women’s health expert Jennifer Wider, MD, tells Yahoo Beauty she has some concerns. “It has been well-established that THC comes along with side effects — even in older people,” she says, listing anxiety, paranoid thinking patterns, drowsiness, slowed sense of time, and dizziness as examples. “More research will be needed before this could become an accepted therapeutic modality.” Ammerman agrees, noting that “there are still a lot of unanswered questions.” There are also marijuana strains that help combat anxiety, paranoid thinking patterns, drowsiness, slowed sense of time, and dizziness. The "side effects" can sometimes be exactly what you need, if not also what you want... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwn Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Another one... Vermont became the first state to pass legislation legalizing the recreational use of marijuana through its legislature Wednesday.... a quote... “I think the public is ahead of us, but elected officials tend to be cautious when it comes to change. ” http://www.alternet.org/drugs/vermont-becomes-first-state-pass-legislation-legalizing-all-pot-use 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Elected officials including Republican Governor (VT) Phil Scott, a marijuana skeptic. Whatever will he do with this bill? If he's smart, he'll... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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