minermark Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Piece of cake. https://sacramento.craigslist.org/for/5450185843.html Oh my, I had an eargasm just thinking about standing in front of those with my guitar. They would work well for that im sure, These EAW's take 2k Watts, and yes they are mine. These need to move out so the McMs can come in, iv already pizzed of a neighbor or three, im out to pizz off the neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Piece of cake. https://sacramento.craigslist.org/for/5450185843.html Oh my, I had an eargasm just thinking about standing in front of those with my guitar. They would work well for that im sure, These EAW's take 2k Watts, and yes they are mine. These need to move out so the McMs can come in, iv already pizzed of a neighbor or three, im out to pizz off the neighborhood.[/quote If they start any shit with you, just stat cranking up the porn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 With those 14' ceilings, why don't you just fly some KP-600's That should help your guitar fantasy Roger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Let us know how you like everything. It's a damn good thing I didn't see this thread, or you would be flying LaScalas. About that sub you chose (KI-215), it's really more of a bass bin than a sub. You did realize that didn't you? It pretty well craps out below 70Hz. Todays pop music needs as low as 30Hz. If you are listening to oldies, you will probably be fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Let us know how you like everything. It's a damn good thing I didn't see this thread, or you would be flying LaScalas. About that sub you chose (KI-215), it's really more of a bass bin than a sub. You did realize that didn't you? It pretty well craps out below 70Hz. Todays pop music needs as low as 30Hz. If you are listening to oldies, you will probably be fine. Yes Sir, another member was nice enough to enlighten me on that sub via IM. I was able to cancel the order the next morning before it shipped. On the hunt for a KPT-884 now Received the 172's yesterday and the 262's are "out for delivery" today. Also ordered a single 102 to use as a center channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Can't wait to hear your opinion on the sound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Can't wait to hear your opinion on the sound! Just got a notice from FedEx the 262's delivered. May hook them up in my home office tonight and take them for a test drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Where I live it's tonight and ................................................................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I have a couple of that sub's big brothers. The KPT-684. They are good subs, but huge. You might want to post the topic of subs in our subwoofer forum. IMO, you might be better off with a couple folded horn subs like the Bill Fitzmaurice T-30 if you want for music. There are a couple authorized builders lurking. Not sure where you are, so I don't know who you would get. If you are handy with a saw, etc, you can build your own. You will get plenty of help here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) I have a couple of that sub's big brothers. The KPT-684. They are good subs, but huge. You might want to post the topic of subs in our subwoofer forum. IMO, you might be better off with a couple folded horn subs like the Bill Fitzmaurice T-30 if you want for music. There are a couple authorized builders lurking. Not sure where you are, so I don't know who you would get. If you are handy with a saw, etc, you can build your own. You will get plenty of help here! Hadn't really considered building my own, but I'm totally diggin the idea. Would be a nice first project in the shop and pay dividends for years. Any of you gents have ideas for the best way to fly the 262's, keeping in mind I am looking for a pair of mint 362's to use as fronts eventually? Called Klipsch CS and was told they don't make brackets for them space between the deck and the roof is 42" Space from deck to ceiling is 63" Was thinking about hanging the 172's in the corners Edited February 20, 2016 by Big Ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Any of you gents have ideas for the best way to fly the 262's, keeping in mind I am looking for a pair of mint 362's to use as fronts eventually? Called Klipsch CS and was told they don't make brackets for them I'm not familiar with that particular speaker and I'm not sure what the holes are (that's what they look like in the picture) for that appear on the top. What are the dimensions and the weight of these? Could be an application for a shelf and a couple of guide wires to keep the angle you will need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 262's are: 23H x 17W x 12.5D @ 49lbs. The top and bottom look like this: Both sides look like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 According to the Klipsch site, those are 3/8" 16 thread bolt locations so eye bolts, wire and eye lags is an option for sure. If these are going in corners then a shelf could be an easier main support but you have plenty of options with all of those bolt locations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Some would fly them inverted so the tweeters are on bottom. This couples the woofer to the corner while reducing reflections of the high frequencies. This coupling is called corner loading and referred to as 3B in this document where it gives a ~=9db gain on low frequencies: http://www.prosoundtraining.com/site/author/pat-brown/how-boundaries-affect-loudspeakers/ edit: Upon reading the document I am questioning even using the corners for the speakers. There seems to be a great deal of loss for frequencies in the 200-500Hz. Subwoofers, on the other hand, get great gains in the corners. It looks like once you hit 200Hz, boundaries start to damage the signal. 2B and 3B should be avoided for frequencies above 200. Edited February 21, 2016 by mustang guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Some would fly them inverted so the tweeters are on bottom. This couples the woofer to the corner while reducing reflections of the high frequencies. This coupling is called corner loading and referred to as 3B in this document where it gives a ~=9db gain on low frequencies: http://www.prosoundtraining.com/site/author/pat-brown/how-boundaries-affect-loudspeakers/ edit: Upon reading the document I am questioning even using the corners for the speakers. There seems to be a great deal of loss for frequencies in the 200-500Hz. Subwoofers, on the other hand, get great gains in the corners. It looks like once you hit 200Hz, boundaries start to damage the signal. 2B and 3B should be avoided for frequencies above 200. Interesting, so I was think about hanging them as shown in the photo, aimed down around 20-30(o) or so. Sub would still go on top of compressor room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 (edited) Adaptive is one company that offers hardware appropriate for flying or mounting. Search "speaker flyware" for options in that regard. They also have the hang fittings that attach to the sockets in the cabinets without modification. The KI-262 have 60X40 horns, so they'll work best toed in at 45 degrees. Where you want to place your screen/TV will dictate where the best spot to place them should be. Up in the rafters is okay for music, but a hefty compromise for surround sound. The speakers can be mounted backs up against the wall, but be sure to give them a radius of at at least three feet around the top, bottom, and sides that are free of walls/reflective surfaces. aimed down around 20-30(o) or so. Up there, they'll need a steep 45 degrees of tilt in order to hear the horn, and keep them from bouncing sound straight off the garage doors. Edited February 21, 2016 by Quiet_Hollow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The ceiling and floors are gorgeous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Having last night just read the Atmos installation guide (why?!), they actually suggested 14 ft ceilings are the perfect height for Atmos. Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 No matter how you fly or tilt wall mounted speakers, provide strong support from underneath (like a braced shelf). That's what Klipsch does with Heresy wall mounts (there are some photos somewhere of a Klipsch room with several Heresy surrounds up near the ceiling, and Klipschorns in the rear). They should be bolted to the shelf, even if you also use guy wires. The bolts will help prevent the speaker from bouncing slightly. The whole USA is going to be earthquake country sooner or later (except, possibly, for a patch in Montana, and a patch in Texas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ears Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 It's been a while so thought I would stop by and post a few install photos. I'm still need to add a sub and I'm going to add separate Crown power amps for each channel, along with an additional KI-102 center channel speaker to mount one on each side of the TV. For now, just using the power from the receiver it sounds really good, so time/money and I will get it finished up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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