Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 The leaders of the FBI wasn't to make encryption illegal. I suppose by making the same of software illegal. Specifically, they want to deny citizens the right to encrypt a computer file, or disc, tablet, or phone. Is that a good idea or bad? Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 According to you, good. That way, software developers can't prevent unauthorized access to their applications. According to me, bad. Intellectual property rights are a good thing for developers. Further, unrelated to software development, people should be able to communicate using whatever means is available to them to secure their right to privacy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 According to you, good. That way, software developers can't prevent unauthorized access to their applications. According to me, bad. Intellectual property rights are a good thing for developers. Further, unrelated to software development, people should be able to communicate using whatever means is available to them to secure their right to privacy. Ha ha! Very good. But I'd be happy to trade copy protection for my own ability to keep my digital information completely private under any and all circumstances. So, I say, bad, very bad!Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) You might like this documentary on Aaron Swartz. I think they did just about as good a job as anyone could do to try to put infringement in a positive light. Nevertheless, I just could not take the leap to accept Robin Hood. Edited February 17, 2016 by Jeff Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 No way I'll submit to a law limiting my ability to hide whatever I wish for whatever reasons. I cannot even conceive of living in such a situation. I use 256 bit encryption for my personal files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 I've heard a lot about the Swartz documentary, but have not watched it yet. I will probably see it soon. How is Comey planning on accomplishing this new law? I assume it will be national security related? He has been grumbling very loudly of late. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 The law would not help since the top FBI mans got hacked last week by a 16 y/o. Maybe people want the illusion of thinking the computer stuff can;t be seen by someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Apple now facing a court order to undecrypt an iPhone. So far, they are refusing. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 undecrypt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Nondescript. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivervalleymgb Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) The government chose this case since it was terrorists, and the public can't sympathize with terrorists. This whole case is troubling to me since the first day of the San Bernadino attack, all witnesses reported three white athletic built men in military black uniforms carried out the attack. Not a conspiracy theorist, just a realist. Even though eye witness accounts are the least trustworthy in any investigation, something just doesn't feel right about this whole mess.It is too late to change this country becoming a police state to rival any in history. The majority believe in giving up rights for security. I have sons working in the cutting edge of tech, and neither believe there is any way that privacy exists, or has existed for the last couple of decades. Edited February 17, 2016 by Rivervalleymgb 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Those auto typing keyboards! Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Oh. I thought an undecrypt was a crypt for dead underwear with skid marks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 https://www.justsecurity.org/27214/quick-update-apple-privacy-writs-act-1789/ Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) The obvious next step is for the government to simply capture and torture Tim Cook. They can't lose, he looks wimpy to me. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Edited February 17, 2016 by jo56steph74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Suppose the dead terrorist had buried his data in the desert. Can the government require construction companies with lots of digging gear to go dig in the desert to help them find the box, using this all writs law? Apple says they are not a party to the case. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Suppose the dead terrorist had buried his data in the desert. Can the government require construction companies with lots of digging gear to go dig in the desert to help them find the box, using this all writs law? Apple says they are not a party to the case. Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk That's not a perfect analogy, nor is this one: Can the government require a landowner to allow it to enter its premises to dig up evidence of a crime committed by somebody other than the landowner? The Apple situation is in between our 2 analogies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 According to you, good. That way, software developers can't prevent unauthorized access to their applications. According to me, bad. Intellectual property rights are a good thing for developers. Further, unrelated to software development, people should be able to communicate using whatever means is available to them to secure their right to privacy. Anything wrong with preventing access except through a judge's order -- in other words, get a warrant? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 According to you, good. That way, software developers can't prevent unauthorized access to their applications. According to me, bad. Intellectual property rights are a good thing for developers. Further, unrelated to software development, people should be able to communicate using whatever means is available to them to secure their right to privacy.Anything wrong with preventing access except through a judge's order -- in other words, get a warrant? The technologist properly argues that once a tool is created, everyone will have it. Just like the back doors in the internet.Sent from my SM-T330NU using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I don't believe for one minute that the powers that be cant see what is on this phone. However, I don't care who listens to my phone calls, looks at my pics or laughs at my naked azz while strolling through my house on Sat. morn. One thing is for sure, I still want everyone's bag checked and I still want everyone go through a screening at the airport....and hey maybe metal detectors are a good idea at schools and movie theaters. And no I don't want that "scared" woman to accidentally shoot me with her 380 that still has the tag on it while she is fumbling in her purse and Im just standing in line trying to some dam diapers. The Govt doesn't scare me, but some of the "scared" people out there do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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