majas Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Hi folks! I want to have 2 speaker setups inside one single room. This is for my business showroom. We also want to use a single AV Receiver for this 2 setups (5.1) sharing the same subwoofer. My question: Is there any product I can hook up 2 setups and I then select one and then the other? that make sense? Please help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Niles and Russound both make speaker switch boxes. Are you wanting a 5.1 and a 2 channel system using the same speakers? Can you just turn off the channels within your AVR? If one system is HT and the other 2 channel, some pre-amps have HT bypass capability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majas Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Niles and Russound both make speaker switch boxes. Are you wanting a 5.1 and a 2 channel system using the same speakers? Can you just turn off the channels within your AVR? If one system is HT and the other 2 channel, some pre-amps have HT bypass capability. I want to use two 5.1 setups (using one single subwoofer) So I just want to have a product where I select one or the other setup. I think it need to receive both setup wires and the act as a bridge selector. Any product link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Hopefully this might help...http://www.nilesaudio.com/product_selection.php?catcdID=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majas Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Hopefully this might help...http://www.nilesaudio.com/product_selection.php?catcdID=7 those Niles and Russound products work with pair of speakers, its more for distribution audio. I need just 2 swtich of 5 channels each. I think its impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusaDude Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 There might be some high-end 11 channel AVR's or pre-amps that have dual zone capabilities, where you might be able to have 2 separate 5.1 setups. But I don't know of any and if they exist, they're probably quite expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majas Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 There might be some high-end 11 channel AVR's or pre-amps that have dual zone capabilities, where you might be able to have 2 separate 5.1 setups. But I don't know of any and if they exist, they're probably quite expensive. I already have one AVR, so I dont want to purchase one more, just have some kind of selector so I can use two setups in a single room, not tu used at the same time, it will be used one at a time. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusaDude Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Niles SMS-10 Says it can handle 10 pair of speakers... It's probably for sound distribution, but maybe it would work. http://www.nilesaudio.com/product.php?prodID=SMS-10&recordID=High%20Power%20Impedance%20Matching%20System&categoryID=Speaker%20Selectors&prdcdID=FG00229 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm not seeing anything online that will handle (2) 5.0 systems. Easiest thing would be to get a 10 speaker selector. Hit 3 switches and it changes from one set of surround speakers to the other using the same AVR and the same Sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) The problem with the niles is that it's nearly $400. You might as well buy a a second receiver if you did that. Would be best to do so anyway because none of your levels, delay, or eq will be right if you just switch to different speakers. Just buy a cheaper receiver for the lesser setup. If it's for a showroom you probably need to demo different receivers as well anyway. Edited April 12, 2016 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 If they'll play the same thing simultaneously, just run pre outs to the second area and put an amp in there. You can split the video as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I may be stating the obvious or totally missing something myself, but the biggest problem with the selector route is that nearly all of them only have like 1 input. Having a whole bunch of outputs doesn't really do you any good. You can have a selector that can handle 10 pair of speakers, but if it can only take one stereo input, that means you still get to buy five of the things. There are probably retail specific solutions that will do what you want, otherwise buying multiple cheap ones with a small amount of switches may be your best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 12, 2016 Moderators Share Posted April 12, 2016 I may be stating the obvious or totally missing something myself, but the biggest problem with the selector route is that nearly all of them only have like 1 input. Ah...I wasn't thinking about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majas Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 Answer from Russound: Hello XXX, Thank you for contacting Russound. We do not make a device designed for that purpose. The only thing we could offer would be 5 x AB2.2 speaker selector. http://www.russound.com/product_detail.php?i=1768 Best Regards, Joe Joe DionRussound Technical Support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) You know, if you took some kind of project box and installed five cheap 3-position toggle switches, you could do this for cheap. You'd just have to flip five switches when you want to change setups. Edited April 12, 2016 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) http://www.parts-express.com/3pdt-mini-toggle-switch-center-off--060-522 http://www.parts-express.com/Search.aspx?keyword=project%20box&sitesearch=true like $15 total. Whether it would pop or do something else that is icky is a different story. Edited April 12, 2016 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) http://www.parts-express.com/3pdt-mini-toggle-switch-center-off--060-522 http://www.parts-express.com/Search.aspx?keyword=project%20box&sitesearch=true like $15 total. Whether it would pop or do something else that is icky is a different story. You wouldn't want the center off switch. There wouldn't be a load on the amp. Also, PE sells 4P switches. This one would do 4 speakers, so you would need another SPDT. http://www.parts-express.com/4pdt-heavy-duty-toggle-switch--060-572 edit: input+ in the center 4 screws. You do not run the negative (-) though it. Edited April 13, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prerich Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Niles and Russound both make speaker switch boxes. Are you wanting a 5.1 and a 2 channel system using the same speakers? Can you just turn off the channels within your AVR? If one system is HT and the other 2 channel, some pre-amps have HT bypass capability. I want to use two 5.1 setups (using one single subwoofer) So I just want to have a product where I select one or the other setup. I think it need to receive both setup wires and the act as a bridge selector. Any product link? When I used to work for Domes Audio Video Environments in Chesapeake Va (it's now at the Hilltop location in Va Beach), we had three HT rooms. The first room was comprised of 8 receivers (Denon, Sony, Pioneer Elite) and ton of possible speaker combos (we could choose subs, mains, centers, and rears). This was fairly expensive though (we had the gear because we did custom work and av distribution). This was back in the 90's! So it can be done - I just don't know if it can be done inexpensively. Give Lee or Jeff Whedbee a call a Domes and tell them David from the 90's recommended you. RIP Bro Bill Jenkins of DomesAV!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 How you're supposed to do it: https://www.audioauthority.com/page/appexht7 Basically you still have individual switches for each channel but they are all controlled by a master so you don't have to run around the room switching stuff. I'm guessing that you don't want to pay for it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I wonder if that is just a relay way of doing what you said before. They sell 6PDT relays that operate off 6vdc. With one of those, you would put a simple toggle SPST switch on a 6 vdc circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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