I have klipsch RP 5.1 280f system and a Question.

[BlessedPrince]

I have the bigger sized speakers that go with the 280f but I still have my 10" sub(sw110)

So my question is; Am I forcing it too much? Should I upgrade soon or is it ok. The system is sold with a 15" sub. By the way. Appreciate the input.

[derrickdj1]

A bigger sub/s will have more low extension, more output compared to a 10 in. sub.  I think most people would agree that the 10 in. sub will have no more extension than the main speakers and stop in the 35 Hz range depending on room size. A sub that can do 20 Hz a the LP will be much better.  Two subs will even out the bass in the room and give you more headroom.

[mustang guy]

What are you powering your system with?

 

The reason I ask is because the potential output of the mains is much greater than the sub. If you never turn the mains up, the sub will squeak by as long as it's not far from your listening position.

Edited April 17, 2016 by mustang guy

[mustang guy]

Quick note. The SW 110 max output is 113db which is 32 watts for a single 280. The SW115 is capable of 121db which is higher than a 280 at rms of 150 watts or about 120db.

 

Unless you stack the 110's, you will still have the 113db max. 

Edited April 17, 2016 by mustang guy

[derrickdj1]

I'm not sure if that is the right way to think about it.  His problem is that the sub can't keep up with the mains.  I got that from you a couple of years ago, mustang guy, lol. I think the max out was measured eighth spaced and maybe a meter away from the sub.

Edited April 17, 2016 by derrickdj1

[Paducah Home Theater]

Yes extension will be the biggest issue. You're probably missing most of an entire octave right now. The R-115SW's will be much better in this regard.

[BlessedPrince]

Quick note. The SW 110 max output is 113db which is 32 watts for a single 280. The SW115 is capable of 121db which is higher than a 280 at rms of 150 watts or about 120db.

 

Unless you stack the 110's, you will still have the 113db max. 

I do feel like it doesn't sound as good at times. So will 2 of these 10" be better than 1 15"? 

[BlessedPrince]

What are you powering your system with?

 

The reason I ask is because the potential output of the mains is much greater than the sub. If you never turn the mains up, the sub will squeak by as long as it's not far from your listening position.

 

Im using yamaha RX V677. its not much but I'm going to upgrade to yamaha RX A2050 soon. 

[mustang guy]

 

Quick note. The SW 110 max output is 113db which is 32 watts for a single 280. The SW115 is capable of 121db which is higher than a 280 at rms of 150 watts or about 120db.

 

Unless you stack the 110's, you will still have the 113db max. 

I do feel like it doesn't sound as good at times. So will 2 of these 10" be better than 1 15"? 

 

Yes, but here is the only way it will. Adding a second sub will reduce room modes, which means there will be fewer dead spots and hot spots at certain low frequencies.

 

When you say it doesn't sound good, what do you mean? Does the sub-bass disappear when you turn the volume up? Is the bass just not as deep as you want? If so, it's the sub...it's too small.

 

 

 

What are you powering your system with?

 

The reason I ask is because the potential output of the mains is much greater than the sub. If you never turn the mains up, the sub will squeak by as long as it's not far from your listening position.

Im using yamaha RX V677. its not much but I'm going to upgrade to yamaha RX A2050 soon. 

That's a pretty serious machine. It won't take much volume knob for the speakers to pull away from that little sub. Adding a second 110 will do little to remedy that problem.

 

The SW-115 is substantially more sub than the 110. There are many other subs on the market and in the DIY world depending on budget and space. If you need help with that, just say the word...

[BlessedPrince]

 

 

Quick note. The SW 110 max output is 113db which is 32 watts for a single 280. The SW115 is capable of 121db which is higher than a 280 at rms of 150 watts or about 120db.

 

Unless you stack the 110's, you will still have the 113db max. 

I do feel like it doesn't sound as good at times. So will 2 of these 10" be better than 1 15"? 

 

Yes, but here is the only way it will. Adding a second sub will reduce room modes, which means there will be fewer dead spots and hot spots at certain low frequencies.

 

When you say it doesn't sound good, what do you mean? Does the sub-bass disappear when you turn the volume up? Is the bass just not as deep as you want? If so, it's the sub...it's too small.

 

 

 

What are you powering your system with?

 

The reason I ask is because the potential output of the mains is much greater than the sub. If you never turn the mains up, the sub will squeak by as long as it's not far from your listening position.

Im using yamaha RX V677. its not much but I'm going to upgrade to yamaha RX A2050 soon. 

That's a pretty serious machine. It won't take much volume knob for the speakers to pull away from that little sub. Adding a second 110 will do little to remedy that problem.

 

The SW-115 is substantially more sub than the 110. There are many other subs on the market and in the DIY world depending on budget and space. If you need help with that, just say the word...

 

Thanks for the advise. Im actually going to get a yamaha RX A3040. getting a good deal on one. Im also gonna have to upgrade sub since after this conversation I believe its too small. I have to agree and so do my ears. Im just going to sell it and see if I can get the new reference 15" sub. I think 2 will be overkill.. there huge. One more thing. What type of cd player may you recommend. to get the best out of my music. thanks again.