Aymen007 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Hello please first sorry because i am not good in english because i speak only french I had to slam every time the equipment "Marantz SR7009 and Power Amplifiers Nad M25 On My Klipsch speaker RF7 MKII, MKII RC64, RS62 MKIIThese are the detailsNad alone without Trigger = no slamNad with Marantz connected both with Trigger = with snapWhen the two devices connected with 12V by pressing the button of the Marantz walk it starts, it has a first relay which "tock" and Nad amplifier turns on, but after 7 or 8 sec to a Marantz second terminal relay final at the startExactly, this relay once it is triggered at the same time the sound of slamming entant in pregnant how to say here in the receiver and close to work and pass the signal for their pre-out card to the power amplifierBy cons before when connected speakers directly without power amp Marantz there is no slamThe slamming happens when both Marantz and nad connected with a trigger wire and the second relay starts receiver that makes the vampYesterday, I look in the menu, I have not found a timer in trigger settings only there on or off the trigger output to input dedicateI want to know what solution is that there is an external device can program it is to say, after starting the Marantz 2 or 3 seconds, it gives Alim 12V to power amplifiers or an external filter absorbs this slamThank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) Woah, slam, snap, what? Not sure what exactly what you mean by "slam" or "snap." Edited May 6, 2016 by IbizaFlame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) there is obviously a bit of a language barrier here perhaps slam and impact or dynamics are what the op is after. Edited May 7, 2016 by moray james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) I am guessing he is talking about a loud THUMP when the amp comes on through the 12v trigger. Edited May 7, 2016 by wvu80 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth2 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I am guessing he is talking about a loud THUMP when the amp comes on through the 12v trigger. I didn't know you spoke French! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I am guessing he is talking about a loud THUMP when the amp comes on through the 12v trigger. So, Aymen007, is there a loud, sudden sound when the amp comes on with the 12 volt trigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 If you don't figure this out, disconnect the 12V trigger wire and start turning the Marantz and the NAD on separately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymen007 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 I am guessing he is talking about a loud THUMP when the amp comes on through the 12v trigger.I am very sorry becose i not speSo, Aymen007, is there a loud, sudden sound when the amp comes on with the 12 volt trigger? Yes this exactly Sound like " tac , boom " If i put speaker directly in Out Marantz without amplifier Nad i not listen this sound If i put speaker directly in Out Nad only i not listen this sound If i use 12v Trigger between Marantz and Nad if i open Marantz If receiver end bootting give this sound tac or toc My question is if this sound its not good for speaker or no problem And if u can give me i solution like Trigger timer becose in setting Marantz in option Trigger only on or off not timer This Video french but u can listen sound same if receive open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Hmmm...curious - what kind of trigger cable are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymen007 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 3.5 MM mono cable mâle to mâle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Check and see if there's any build up on the pin and conductor. I haven't had this happen with a trigger cable, but I did have it happen on a Promedia 2.1 that I had received, it rot havoc on that system. You might also try another 3.5 mm cable. I am actually even using stereo conductors on my setup without any issues. So I'd start with examining if it's a cable issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymen007 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Check and see if there's any build up on the pin and conductor. I haven't had this happen with a trigger cable, but I did have it happen on a Promedia 2.1 that I had received, it rot havoc on that system. You might also try another 3.5 mm cable. I am actually even using stereo conductors on my setup without any issues. So I'd start with examining if it's a cable issue. now i plug stereo cable and same problem please all check link i record with my phone you listen details problems http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00724116385210881211 or http ://www.megafileupload.com/rEdK/2016_05_07_21_57_24.mp3 this details material with sound and problems last audio record start marantz and first relay start >>>>> relay NAD started >>>>>> second relay NAD start and amplifier and booting >>>>>> second relay marantz end booting and here exactly you can liten relay and and toc in speakers in the same second problem booming sound same time if marantz end starting or shutdown for this i speak please i think to separate amplifier to pre amp and if anything have solution for machine with 12v trigger remote control here i can turn on and off amplifier with remote thanks for all and wait your help Edited May 7, 2016 by Aymen007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'd say it is an issue with the outlet, but you have already said that if you power one or the other, it doesn't do this. I wonder if you had a power distribution device, if that would resolve the issue. Not sure who makes them, emotive used to have one that managed up to four triggers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymen007 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 I try connecting the two amplifiers in Direct outlet but always the same result when the second relay trips Marantz sends current to trying this power amplifier Nad and direct the speakers all equipment and new and as I say before if connect the speakers directly to the Marantz or Nad bypassing the Port Trigger there is no longer its only exist if put both devices simultaneously via a cable Trigger I have an idea amp Nad when he receives the 12v it starts and if sectional 12v falls in sleep I want to know is that there is an external pairs with a remote control that gives 12v is tell your when I press the remote control sends 12v fix and as his amp remains condition and if I press another time it cuts 12v amp and changes in sleep mode if sails gives 12v remote control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Something like this being added in is what I was referring to, though - I am unsure if it'd resolve the issue: https://emotiva.com/products/accessories/et-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aymen007 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 Something like this being added in is what I was referring to, though - I am unsure if it'd resolve the issue: https://emotiva.com/products/accessories/et-3 thank you but this only switch Trigger not have timer edit not resolve my problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 My theory was that if there is some sort of switch to dampen the signal coming from the source, it could alleviate some of the current and thusly reduce the popping sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Power amps need to be the last devices turned on and the first ones turned off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 This may also be beneficial for an Arduino intelligent trigger management: http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/46156/diy-intelligent-trigger-control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaman Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 ..............jeune c'est pa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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