Arash Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hey guys, I've been working with Altendorf WA8 table saw for past two years with totally satisfactory result. Now we are opening a new store and we are about to buy a new sliding-table panel saw. we checked if Altendorf WA8 is available but no luck at all. Altendorf WA80 is in stock but it will set us back $35K. Felder is also available. its' top model Felder K940S is just $20K. I have a limited experience with Felder and I like it's tools but I always admired Altendorf despite WA8 was a medium range model. Felder seems promising but I'm not sure. I wanted to share it with you maybe someone has more experience with Felder. any idea is much appreciated. this is Altendorf WA8: This is Altendorf WA80 TE ($30K): Link this is Felder K940S ($20K): link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Those are some robust saws. Are you using them for mass production of speakers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share Posted June 14, 2016 Those are some robust saws. Are you using them for mass production of speakers? yes, actually we manufacture speakers in large quantities and table saw and CNC machine are two main tools we use. we build CNC ourselves domestically with HSD spindle which is able to deal with BB plywood. we also need heavy duty table saw for cutting Baltic Birch plywood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Now that's a saw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Arash - Google "Altendorf Felder forum" to get real life opinions. -- https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=altendorf%20felder%20forum Lars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I always include "forum" in search window when I want to see discussions of real people, over and above any kind of "reviews". which could be biased. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Used examples - http://www.limzmachinery.com/Panel-Saws-WA8--Limz-Machinery-211 http://www.altendorf.com/en/products/used-machines.html Search "Altendorf wa8 used" Shipping to you I do not know about, but may be a good option overall. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Have you ever used a standing panel saw ? I find it much easier to run the saw through the panel rather than the panel through the saw. Takes the work out of it, much more pleasant to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 For 20K you would think the operator would be included. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Have you ever used a standing panel saw ? I find it much easier to run the saw through the panel rather than the panel through the saw. Takes the work out of it, much more pleasant to use. Jason - As far as I know, WAY less accurate and consistent. And, no option of scoring blade. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Have you ever used a standing panel saw ? I find it much easier to run the saw through the panel rather than the panel through the saw. Takes the work out of it, much more pleasant to use. Jason - As far as I know, WAY less accurate and consistent. And, no option of scoring blade. Lars Don't know where you get this information from but any quality saw will be accurate, if not its worn, broken or just operator error. Never had an issue with the few i used though they were industrial models, i do not personally own one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Do you mean like a standing frame saw like at Home depot or Lowes? or something else ? Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 and still no scoring blade option. Two different animals. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Do you mean like a standing frame saw like at Home depot or Lowes? or something else ? Lars Vertical panel saw, some have an option for a router attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) I agree for the coin Arash is talking about he should be able to get a GOOD panel saw. His location may be a problem. Edited June 14, 2016 by babadono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Ya, not as accurate. Even just starting with bearing slop of the saw arbor. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 A good saw will have 1/32" accuracy or better. Wood expands and contracts more than that, not an issue. If bearings are worn replace them or get a new saw. If by score cut you mean dado you can get one with a router attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Scoring blade cuts veneer or laminate to a very shallow setting very cleanly before the main blade cuts the body of the stock. Circular saws have new, out of the box, tremendous slop compared to anything Arash is talking about. Typical ply sheets , when stored in a decent environment, will not expand or contract anywhere near 1/32" unless maybe a full sheet. There's practical reasons why people build and buy saws for 25K. And re 1/32" accuracy, not very impressive at all. Of course, depends on what you're doing. Sheathing a house, or crosscut mitering solid wood for high end cabinetry. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Circular saw blades are made to flex and going to flex, never going to be perfect any way you cut it. Were not rebuilding aircraft engines here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Were not rebuilding aircraft engines here. some might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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