avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) I recently picked up a sad pair of early Heresy 2's (round terminal cups) where, apparently, the original owner painted them white. And really thick. There are no tags on the back of the cabinets so I can't "date" them but haven't looked on the inside too much yet. I've got 99% of the white paint off of one cabinet and will start the second one soon. I used the Citristrip for this....worked well along with a find bristle copper brush for the grain. They appear to be Walnut once the paint was removed from the first one. The first cabinet had no major damage to it but the second one is more dinged up and some small gouges in it. It may end up being a re-veneer job to get them looking like they should. Some of the white paint got on the motorboard, inside pieces where grills sit, and pack panel. Is the best matching paint going to be the Valspar #40 sheen satin black for the fronts and backs? I've been researching threads for an hour or so and see where some use this and others paint them black and then put a lacquer on that. I'll try to post some pictures soon. Edited June 24, 2016 by avguytx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Round terminal cup = 1986 typically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Hmm... I thought I'd read where the earlier ones had round terminals and later ones were rectangle. I had another pair of Heresy 2's with the rectangle cups. No biggie really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I find Soy-Gel works great for stripping, but I've never tried the Citristrip. However, you are the second person here who has used it, and it sounds like it was a lot of work. Woodcrafters turned me on to the Soy-Gel, and as far as I can see they don't even carry the citristrip. http://www.woodcraft.com/category/su106-14/strippers.aspx. I don't know much, but the guys over at Woodcraft do. I used it on a vintage The Fisher T-80 tuner chassis that I refinished, and it not only removed the old varnish and stain, it cleaned up very well for refinishing. Can anybody who has used both citristrip and soygel chime in? I just wonder if folks aren't beating themselves up using a less good stripper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Maybe it was just they type of white paint they used....or the amount. It's quite thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marvel Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Is the best matching paint going to be the Valspar #40 sheen satin black for the fronts and backs? That's what I would use if you are going to paint again. My HIIs from a little later (not sure exactly either, but the labels were gone. Mine have rectangle terminal cups. All I found inside was the small inspection stickers/pieces of paper, so I dated them from those). I love the walnut on my JBLs, but the black on my HIIs is neutral and really seems to make them disappear. I'll be putting black on the beater LS I'm working on. I don't want to spend the time or money to veneer this pair. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) I've looked inside of both and haven't found any extra tags to date them to. Oh well. If this second one doesn't look as good as the first after the paint comes off, the possibility of painting is there. But, I agree in that the walnut does look nice and I have a pair of JBL L100t's that are walnut and look really good. The pecan on my Norman Lab Model 9's looks really good, too. Funny, when I was in Ace Hardware a little while ago buying a couple new plastic scrapers, I told the guy what I needed them for. His eye lit up and said, "that's Heresy to even think of painting Klipsch speakers that didn't come that way!". He told me a buddy of his in college had a pair of Klipschorns that he painted.....wait for it....John Deere Green! None of his friends could believe he'd done that and the owner of them just thought they were the cats meow. Farmer maybe? Most likely. Thanks for the info, Bruce. Kip Edited June 20, 2016 by avguytx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Maybe it was just they type of white paint they used....or the amount. It's quite thick. The speaker looks pretty good from the pictures. Such a shame they painted over that nice veneer. I hope you don't end up having to repaint them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) The second one is a little more gouged and has some marks in the veneer that looks like things were moved across them or stacked wrong. I'm hoping some light sanding will even those out as I don't want to go too far into the veneer. But maybe they'll work as is. Definitely a shame they painted them. And the "kid" even said they came from the factory like that as it's how his uncle ordered them. Right. White Heresy's would be about like hen's teeth. Edited June 20, 2016 by avguytx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 If they came from the factory painted white, the paint job would have looked a LOT better than that! I've seen lots of black P.A. gear painted white after going into a church. Usually not painted very well. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 So true. Churches seem to love doing that when speakers are visible. I guess they don't want the congregation staring more at the speakers instead of listening to the sermon. ha. Thinking about adding the slant risers to them, too. I've got the plans here to build them as I've already done a couple sets from two other pairs from years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Yeah, this paint had taken about 3 rounds per side. It's been a pain compared to when I used Strypeeze taking black paint off the solid oak top and bottom caps of a pair of POLK SDA's. After this is done, I move to mineral spirits and steel wool and maybe get some paint on them tomorrow after work. I've been off today and this is mostly what I've been doing. I've got to get some new gasket material for all the drivers, too. And a couple pieces of the round velcro dots. Edited June 20, 2016 by avguytx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Back panels being painted now. Will add some pics later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Some before pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 And after repainting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avguytx Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) More of back and sides if I can get it to resize from my phone. Edited June 20, 2016 by avguytx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Nice work! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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