boomac Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 I plan to move my tube amp, pre-amp, CD player and turn table to a spare room we have. I need a stand, (or two) to house the equipment between a pair of Forte IIs. I've been wanting to do this for quite some time and now that all adult children have "moved on", the space is mine! I have nice gear that deserves a solid foundation, especially the TT. Keep in mind that my amp creates a fair amount of heat. It will be necessary to create a reasonable distance between it and the TT, I think! Any helpful recommendations appreciated. I've always either used built ins or modified antiques to house gear but in this case, space is an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Both LarryC and I can give a hearty endorsement of the Target Audio Turntable Stand. This is wall mounted to standard 16" on center studs which isolates it from vibrations. In addition, the actual platform the table sits on is isolated from the rest of the stand. Once the TT's taken car of, you have tons of options for the rest of the gear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krispy Kirk Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 If you're on a budget: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ARITPQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Marty - Does Target Audio have a web-site? Where did you buy yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I think they are a British outfit and I have no idea if they are still in business. Let me get Larry in on this cause he's out resident expert on tt platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) I doubt that the Target of old is still around, but several such stands and the brands, are displayed on this page: https://www.google.com/search?q=target+turntable+wall+stands&biw=1014&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0z7KHtojOAhWCSCYKHUVBBCIQsAQISw#imgrc=eO3eoYMmm1W_PM%3A Some use very heavy free-standing stands, which I suppose are heavy and expensive. I like wall-mounts, since mine was rock-solid and don't vibrate at all. Mine, which are mounted in my new place, easily hold over 100 lbs. each. Edited July 25, 2016 by LarryC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_kc Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I couldn’t find shelves / console / table that fit my space, and was big enough for my components. (A lot of furniture isn’t deep enough.) I found (IIRC on Craigslist) a furniture maker that custom built an open console from quarter sawn oak, with mortise and tenon construction. It is rock solid, fits the space perfectly, and didn’t cost any more than high quality factory made furniture or audio racks. And IMO it is much better looking than any of the industrial looking audio racks that I saw advertised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Your audio will be better with nothing between the speakers. Unless the speakers are quite a bit from the front wall. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Larry - When and where did you buy your wall mount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1UC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 If you're on a budget: http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ARITPQ I got like 4 of them great value 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I had the means to make something similar the target audio. My 2 channel rig is on the second floor. I made a stand out of 4 slabs of granite and all thread. It is very heavy, still if I put the turntable on the stand, things will skip. I built the wall mount unit and haven't had issues. Another thing you could do, if there is only the roof above this room. Is suspend a piece of wood from your ceiling with 1/8" cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I don't remember, way too long ago, and most are out of business anyway. Rega TT mounts were the right size for my odd-shape CD boxes, but I had to have specially-made platforms to sit on the mounts. You may have to choose a mount that fits the size of what you're supporting, although many components have standard sizes like 17" wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 VG - Thanks all for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Scotty, don't know your intentions about where you live, e.g. permanent, moving in a few years, etc., but getting good cabinet maker might be an option for something as simple as a wall mounted shelving. Nothing looks as nice as custom, but the cost will likely run anywhere from $500 to $1500, depending on how much gear and how fancy you want to go. A benefit is that you can have all your wires hidden, and gear mounted cleanly; plus the wood can be stained and finished anyway you want, and you can get fancy with ornamental edging that can be routed/trimmed/chamfered, anything you want or can dream up. Or, similar to what Larry and Marty suggested; http://www.tweakshop.com/Pro-jectWallmount.html https://www.turntablelab.com/products/pro-ject-wall-mount-it-1-turntable-shelf Or any of these from across the Atlantic..... http://www.apollohifi.co.uk/c/wt-series-wall-mounted-supports Edited July 23, 2016 by Gilbert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) I should mention a beneficial accessory to these mounts: resonance or vibration absorbing units. I have now-discontinued Townshend Seismic Sinks under my CD transport and TT, on the wall stands. These added 35 lbs each to the weight on the stands! I don't think you can get them now. Their construction was super: inflatable rubber inner tubes sandwiched between heavily damped steel or aluminum plates. They removed appreciable grit and irritation from my LPs and CDs. I don't know if any successors are available now. I would recommend considering them if they are. Edit: Townshend Audio currently does make vibration absorption: http://www.townshendaudio.com/hi-fi-home-cinema-equipment-vibration-isolation/hi-fi-home-cinema-equipment-vibration-isolation-platform/ These look much simpler than the past units. I have no idea how effective these are compared with the platforms of yore. Edited July 25, 2016 by LarryC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I dunno Larry. They use the word "bespoke" in their description of available sizes. That word does not augur well for their affordability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 That word does not augur well for their affordability. No, and they should be listened to first in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Rainy day here so I decided to get out of the house and visit a couple audio stores. I found a few options and it will all depend on how I want to set the room up and how much I want to spend. I did learn a few things tho'. Both guys I talked to have been in the business a long time. The first shop I visited is where I bought my first stereo set-up back in 1970 and they were in business 50 years before that. I've know the salesman for the 25 years. My second visit was to a newer business, at least at it's current location. The top dog there really knows stereo. I actually met the guy when Larry recommended I visit a high end seller just outside of Chicago many years ago. (BTW Larry, he loves the Basis Tables but wishes the owner were more accessible.) Anyway, their gear is top shelf. Audio Research, Cambridge Audio, Audioquest, Pro-Ject, Linn, SME, Vandersteen, etc. I bought a Pro-Ject 6Perspex SB there quite a few years ago. Both pros agreed isolation is very important. Bruce - I asked about placing equipment between the speakers and neither one ever heard anything negative about it and actually thought it could be counter productive. In fact, both suggested placing, (at least) the power amp between the speakers so as to keep the speaker wire as short as possible. Evidently, shorter speaker wire is more critical than component cable connects. At this point I figure to pick-up the equipment in Larry's link for the TT and CD Player. At the second shop I went to I saw couple amp stands that he's willing to sell me. They're low to the ground, isolated, solid and I like the wood color. The company is currently out of business so they'd like to get some current production stands under the massive Audion Research Amps they have on display. Last we talked about speaker wire. I've read quite a bit and figure good wire is expensive but I wasn't quite prepared when the last guy told me he has more in his speaker wire than in his speakers. I know what speakers he has so good Lord! I asked if they were made of gold and he said no but lots of silver! Anyway, it's always fun to see and hear how some will spare no expense to achieving better sound! BTW, I did walk out of the second shop with a new set of AudioQuest KnightHawk headphones. They sound good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I am no cabinet builder, but I have constructed several TT stands over the years that were highly successful. Just a column you can get a hundred pounds of gravel or sand in. My last couple look good as the PAW mastered Formica and we put black on them. You can kick them will playing and it will hurt your foot, but the record will sound fine. Doubt if we had 75.00 in materials in any of them until we put the marble on top of my double turntable stand. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 I'm liking one of those Pro-Ject wall mounts that Gil supplied the link to. I think a couple of them would do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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