JoeDirt Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I realize this has been discussed repeatedly, and I've read most postings related to this topic. I have not found exactly what I'm looking for to get my LaScalas down to that 20Hz range. What do I want? A pair of subs to place LaScalas on top of that will fill in that lower end. This would also lift the speakers to at or above listening position in my HT. So these subs should be the footprint of LaScalas (approx. 24"x24") and no more than 18" high. Active, passive, doesn't matter. I know I could diy bass bins or tubas that will work. But I'm looking for more of an out of the box solution. I've found plenty of subs that will fill in the gap soundwise, but they are normally a single sub. I've also found subs with the proper footprint, but they lack the punch desired. In conclusion, I'm just stubborn enough to think that I can not be the only guy who's wanted this. So I thought I'd post the problem here and get your feedback. Thanks. Joe Dierte` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I built a pair of THESE for just that purpose. They're not good to 20 Hz but are plenty for music plus they're horn loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 ^ very nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'd stick with a horn-loaded sub. It would blend in much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 The closest you will get is a pair of Table Tuba's and they are 30"x30"x whatever you want. Anything not horn loaded will not blend properly. Subs should be placed where they work best, not under the main's as risers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 what about is the center of the room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDirt Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 I've got plans from Bill Fitzmaurice for the Tuba 24 thinking that the footprint would work and I could lay them sideways at 16" high. I realize this is not TT quality so I've not built them yet. I was hoping someone made a decent active sub to fit the space and I'd get 2 of them to achieve my goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If you have the Tuba 24 plans and read them then you already know they need to be high passed at 45 Hz to prevent damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDirt Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 There's the problem..... and why I'm still looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Table Tuba's are your best bet if you are space restricted, find the room. If you like it loud use double 8" with them though even the 10" version gets to ridiculous volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 5 hours ago, CECAA850 said: I built a pair of THESE for just that purpose. They're not good to 20 Hz but are plenty for music plus they're horn loaded. OMG that's some sick work. WTF who knew you were a perfectionist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm thinking you go with the home team and pick up a couple R-115SWs if placement in those spots will work well. \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 VMPS Larger Subs x 4. -4 Db at 16 Hz, in room. 2.5% THD at one watt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Klipsch KP-480s were sized to sit under la Scalas. 102 or 104 dB/w/m, passive radiator in a slot, f10 around 30 Hz(?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 A pair of 18's and an Inuke 6000 w/dsp is $900. Are you a candidate for any of the DIY Ultimax sub kits on PE? http://www.parts-express.com/Search.aspx?keyword=ultimax&sitesearch=true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel TJ Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I run a Bill Fitzmaurice THT (Tuba Home Theater) with my Scalas. It is an earth mover for sure. Mine is much too large to fit under anything, but you could conceivably build them with 12" drivers and make them less than 18" tall. There are several other BFM sub designs that also might work well for your application. They are DIY, but they will give you tectonic bass capability for just a few hundred dollars (I think I have about $300 in my sub). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDirt Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 The THT looks wonderful. But my goal is to get that type of performance out of a 24" cube that fits under Lascalas. Ultimax is an intriguing option as is the KP480 above. I am looking for the perfect match of size, sound, aesthetics, and cost. Love the idea of a tuba of some kind. Actually 2 tubas 24"x24" and 14" high is my target. I'm ok with the BFM diy plans if there was one to meet my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, JoeDirt said: Actually 2 tubas 24"x24" and 14" high is my target. I'm ok with the BFM diy plans if there was one to meet my needs. Stretch it to 30" x 30" and you're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhound Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 2:48 PM, RoboKlipsch said: OMG that's some sick work. WTF who knew you were a perfectionist? You obviously have not tried one of his martini's! I vote for the Table Tuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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