timdog5000 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 http://www.avsforum.com/svs-unleashes-16-ultra-series-subwoofers-featuring-8-voice-coil-drivers/ No talk about the new SVS subs? Or am I late to the party somewhere else and I did not see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I remember when you could but 4 svs subs for what the new ported ultra costs. They used to be a great bang for your buck ID subwoofer company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 For the cost of ONE of those SVS subs with a single 16" driver you could build FOUR DIY 18's with dual Inuke 6000 w/dsp and still have money left over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 8" voice-coil!! Didn't see any spec's listed, wonder how low and how loud that sucker gets.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, jjptkd said: 8" voice-coil!! Didn't see any spec's listed, wonder how low and how loud that sucker gets.. I'll bet it has some impressive numbers to go with it. I'm not a fan of the blue ultra logo though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 That is a big speaker coil for sure. Biggest in the industry I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I know some pro drivers (woofers) use 4" coils but that's the largest I've ever heard of. I'm not sure I've ever heard of a subwoofer with anything larger than a 3" voice-coil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASLS2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I may get it. Sold my SB13 Ultra a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdog5000 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 Although I love my 2-PB 12/2 + and I personally like the look of the new subs I can't afford to even look at them too hard. With all the awesome subs I see people building on this forum and others I think they would be a hard sell for people who have to save quite a while to get them. I'll be interested to read the reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 9 hours ago, timdog5000 said: Although I love my 2-PB 12/2 + and I personally like the look of the new subs I can't afford to even look at them too hard. With all the awesome subs I see people building on this forum and others I think they would be a hard sell for people who have to save quite a while to get them. I'll be interested to read the reviews. I'm still waiting to take your order on some subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdog5000 Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 10 hours ago, Scrappydue said: I'm still waiting to take your order on some subs Those beauties you have built Scrappy were some of the ones that first popped into my brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzydog Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Wonder why they always use some oddball driver size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, FuzzyDog said: Wonder why they always use some oddball driver size? I asked the same thing on their facebook page. No answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I think JL was the first company to use 13's. I wondered the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 12 hours ago, FuzzyDog said: Wonder why they always use some oddball driver size? PROPRIETARY-no replacing their dirver which is easier on subwoofer with standard size drivers. It is even a pain to try and modify the cabinet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I have thought for a while about SVS and tried to figure out what the strategy has been. This driver and system I think tell me the real story. Look at the dimensions of this box: 25 x 22 x 31 This system is rated to have a response down to 13hz +-3db I think Derrick is correct that they design oddball driver sizes in order to keep things proprietary and not often have someone put a different replacement in the box. You must go to them...and probably would want to anyway in most cases considering the DSP they use to flatten the response. But what is SVS's strategy? Look at DIY. To get really low bass typically takes a large enclosure, 6ft, 8ft, 10ft, 12ft even up to 20cft and more. THIS box, as a potential top performer in the market, can fit into anybody's living room. It's not small, but it's not DIY either. It is a serious size but one that can be made to work. I believe this is the purpose of their designs, especially this new one. The problem with almost all the highest end subs is size. By making a monster driver with a motor and coil of this magnitude, they appear to be going for the unicorn combination of smaller size AND max performance. It also has a very modern look, with a digital readout and ability to use a smartphone to program it. I don't know if the goal is to sell a lot or have a flagship. Like an automaker, they may simply want something to show off, and then direct most to a few steps down. It seems a very smart design idea, taking them into the realm of the top ID manufacturers and able to compete to the level of 99%+ of sub buyers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Could be my next big purchase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 0:44 PM, RoboKlipsch said: I have thought for a while about SVS and tried to figure out what the strategy has been. This driver and system I think tell me the real story. Look at the dimensions of this box: 25 x 22 x 31 This system is rated to have a response down to 13hz +-3db I think Derrick is correct that they design oddball driver sizes in order to keep things proprietary and not often have someone put a different replacement in the box. You must go to them...and probably would want to anyway in most cases considering the DSP they use to flatten the response. But what is SVS's strategy? Look at DIY. To get really low bass typically takes a large enclosure, 6ft, 8ft, 10ft, 12ft even up to 20cft and more. THIS box, as a potential top performer in the market, can fit into anybody's living room. It's not small, but it's not DIY either. It is a serious size but one that can be made to work. I believe this is the purpose of their designs, especially this new one. The problem with almost all the highest end subs is size. By making a monster driver with a motor and coil of this magnitude, they appear to be going for the unicorn combination of smaller size AND max performance. It also has a very modern look, with a digital readout and ability to use a smartphone to program it. I don't know if the goal is to sell a lot or have a flagship. Like an automaker, they may simply want something to show off, and then direct most to a few steps down. It seems a very smart design idea, taking them into the realm of the top ID manufacturers and able to compete to the level of 99%+ of sub buyers. This makes one think of Hoffman's Iron Law. You can have two of these three things: small box size, deep bass, high driver sensitivity. In DYI, we don't want to pay a high price relatively for the driver so, the box get's big. This keeps the driver and amp power less saving money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted October 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted October 13, 2016 On 10/8/2016 at 5:22 PM, timdog5000 said: No talk about the new SVS subs? Or am I late to the party somewhere else and I did not see it? Nope....it looks like I am. Last night I saw an ad on my Facebook and posted about it in the Home Theater section. Do you think I should merge my thread with yours or just leave it asis? I personally think the new sub looks amazing, but at $2500....I'll have to pass. As mentioned, I could build (ahem have someone build) several incredible DIY horn or IB subs that would surpass the SVS and still have money left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboKlipsch Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 9 hours ago, derrickdj1 said: This makes one think of Hoffman's Iron Law. You can have two of these three things: small box size, deep bass, high driver sensitivity. In DYI, we don't want to pay a high price relatively for the driver so, the box get's big. This keeps the driver and amp power less saving money. Much more succinct, and accurate way of saying what I tried to say, nicely done! I can't imagine the replacement cost for a driver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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