willland Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 46 minutes ago, CHASLS2 said: Or just buy my 2000 hour 60VT60 plasma. No other display will touch it unless you want to take a chance on LG and OLED. Not a bad idea but I am going for a minimum 65" this time. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASLS2 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 OLED would be my only choice if my plasma bit the dust. I could never live with LED. Just a shame there is no choice today like there was in the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Now one more TV to add to the confusion mix. I can get this Samsung TV for $1849.99 delivered and no sales tax. Not top tier but still very favorable reviews. Samsung UN75JU7100FXZA-------Best Buy $2599.98 + $181.99(tax) = $2781.97 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-74-5-diag--led-2160p-smart-3d-4k-ultra-hd-tv-silver-black/3938599.p?skuId=3938599 Added bonus, possibly, depreciated refund for my 59" Samsung plasma. I am expecting(my speculation only) somewhere between $100.00 to $500.00. I will not get that decision until at least Monday. Not holding my breath though. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 You know...I got one of those Panasonic 65 inch VT plasma's and love the picture....but I got to say this summer I bought a Sony 65 inch XBR for the family room. I like it too Picture quality is totally different...but not bad. ...but 4 grand... I paid $1600.00 for my Sony Bravia XBR-65X850C............................4 grand ....................ouch G.E.M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary p Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 pay attention to the numbers. j is last years model. k =2016 model. some improvements were made. I recently bought a 65ks9000 for 1799 from best buy on a flash sale. beautiful picture, still dialing it in. only issue is some motion artifact with hockey. thats only because I won't turn down the 4k resolution. everything else looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I would go big big big. 65 is to small for good klipsch hts. Even 70" 7ft away is to small. Just my opinion but I would go over what you want and get a 90 or in that area. I know its easy to say yea buy it! If its not possible regardless ignore the post. Just from experience I bought so many tvs back in the day its kinda embarsing how much I spent then lost selling them. But the one thing we do get in those money out the window stat is the experience on what I should have done. What ever extra money you spend will be that much saved. My 2cents free of charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary p Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 the deal on the 9000 is the best you can get. my opinion of course but that's what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary p Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 the price going from 65 to 75 doubles. unless you want to go further down the quality line. I debated this for months until the deal fell in my lap. then it was too good to pass up. it is basically the same deal you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I'd buy the Samsung Plasma. Surprised to see someone still making them though since Pioneer sold their plant to Panasonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I do not know where you TV gurus get all your information! I am a research junkie (to a fault) but you guys make me look like grandma buying a loaf of bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I (if it was my TV and I really liked it)would not give up on the old TV until at least replacing all the bypass caps on the main board. Did it do exactly the same failure mode with the replacement P.S. board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, gary p said: pay attention to the numbers. j is last years model. k =2016 model. some improvements were made. Yes I am aware of this. As far as I can tell, Samsung has not replaced the 75" J7100 model with a 2016/2017 version. 2 hours ago, gary p said: I recently bought a 65ks9000 for 1799 from best buy on a flash sale. 2 hours ago, gary p said: the deal on the 9000 is the best you can get. my opinion of course but that's what I did. As far as quality/price/ size ratio, getting the 65KS9000 for $1674.99 delivered and no sales tax is the best deal of three I have mentioned. 2 hours ago, gary p said: the price going from 65 to 75 doubles. unless you want to go further down the quality line. I debated this for months until the deal fell in my lap. then it was too good to pass up. it is basically the same deal you can get. You are correct. The best I can do through my work program for the 75KS9000 is $4524.99 out the door and that ain't happening. 2 hours ago, Wolfbane said: I'd buy the Samsung Plasma. Surprised to see someone still making them though since Pioneer sold their plant to Panasonic. I would too if they were still mfr'ing them. 1 hour ago, babadono said: I (if it was my TV and I really liked it)would not give up on the old TV until at least replacing all the bypass caps on the main board. I have not completely given up. I sent in my receipt and Geek Squad work order sheet stating that the main board was not being produced anymore and unavailable. Waiting on their review and determination how much of a refund I will receive. 1 hour ago, babadono said: Did it do exactly the same failure mode with the replacement P.S. board? Yes, no change at all when new PS board was installed. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Cinema_head said: I would go big big big. 65 is to small for good klipsch hts. Even 70" 7ft away is to small. Just my opinion but I would go over what you want and get a 90 or in that area. I know its easy to say yea buy it! If its not possible regardless ignore the post. I hear you but 65" is minimum I will go and the 75" is still somewhat affordable in a mid tier model. The cheapest 90"(88") TV I could buy through my program is $16999.99. No need to say anymore. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 30 minutes ago, willland said: I hear you but 65" is minimum I will go and the 75" is still somewhat affordable in a mid tier model. The cheapest 90"(88") TV I could buy through my program is $16999.99. No need to say anymore. Bill Didn't Pio have 90" a couple years ago for around 7K? What in the hell costs 17K nowadays that cant be beat with a projection for less? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, ZEUS121996 said: What in the hell costs 17K nowadays that cant be beat with a projection for less? Not much but a projector/screen setup may not be practical in most family room rigs. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASLS2 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 14 hours ago, Wolfbane said: I'd buy the Samsung Plasma. Surprised to see someone still making them though since Pioneer sold their plant to Panasonic. No one is making plasma anymore. OLED is the only way to go. LG is getting better at it and another year or so i may jump on a OLED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodrewken Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I wish Samsung would jump back into the OLED game. If for nothing else at least for healthy competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItKlipsch Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 53 minutes ago, CHASLS2 said: No one is making plasma anymore. OLED is the only way to go. LG is getting better at it and another year or so i may jump on a OLED. Unfortunately the 2016 LG lineup of OLED's still suffer from a lot of problems; Particularly: black crushing, motion judder, upscaling artifacting, low absolute brightness, and brightness limiting tech is very noticeable. I personally think the KS9800 beats the OLED's right now, hands down. The only things it doesn't beat the OLED's in is absolute black level, lack of Dolby Vision chip, no 3D, and viewing angles. Many people would find those less important than the shortcomings of the OLED's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 13 hours ago, willland said: As far as quality/price/ size ratio, getting the 65KS9000 for $1674.99 delivered and no sales tax is the best deal of three I have mentioned I was hoping to get a new tv this year but now it's up in the air....Right now we have a smaller Panny Plasma (listed in sig) that we thought was going to be a short term deal to move into the bedroom to replace a Sammy DLP when it screw up but it still is working like a charm (with only slight amount of darkening upon startup)...That said, if I found the 65KS9000 for that price the DLP would be on craigslist for free and by the curb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASLS2 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 No other makers want to touch OLED. Just no money in it for them. So it is take a chance on LG or buy a LED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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