skypig Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 skypig Newbie New Members 0 1 post Posted 23 minutes ago · Report post Hello, I'm brand new here. (Second attempt) Speaker neophyte from Australia. I'm considering buying new speakers for the first time in 30 years. I've always liked my Electrovoice EVIIIs. Not sure if anyone has heard of them, let alone heard them. (They are two ways with a "passive radiator). I've had them re hinged several times, and a little while ago replaced the drivers with a generic set. They are getting very near the end of their life. My amp is a 150w/channel NAD C375BEE. Source is a nicely set up Rega TT or FLAC files through a Cambridge Audio 851N I have a very subtlety set Velodyne sub which is nice in my big room. The room is part of the question. The other part of the question is the base ports in the rear of the RF7s I listen in a semi converted factory. The speakers are only 3.5m (10') from my ears. Best toed in slightly. There is effectively nothing behind or beside them. No corner effect. The ceiling is 4.7m (14') high and "non reflective". The floor is concrete with thin carpet. I listen with a half height wooden wall directly behind me. I'm thinking no wall behind the speakers might not work with the rear base port design? (Nothing to reflect the base forward) Unfortunatly I can't even audition the speakers in a shop, let alone my place. I listen to everything from Sade, Natalie Merchent, Concrete Blonde and Adel to Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath and especially Led Zeppelin. And I like it loud at times. I think the speakers would fit the bill regards the music, and the rest of my system. Less sure if they would work in my environment. Any comments or advice greatly appreciated and sorry for such a long first post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Well the ports won't be an issue. But with that said You got few things working against you in that room. With concrete floors bass will be your biggest challenge most likely. A way I have found solves that is a near field sub. Right behind or beside the MLP. You don't need much if set up well. With the bass somewhat dialed in your speaker placement will be a lot easier. Have you heard 7s? I loved the pair I had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I dont think you would EVER be disappointment by acquiring the RF7ii's... unless you are coming from a MUCH BETTER speaker. the reference 7 ii's are quite good, and they look stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypig Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Thanks guys, I appreciate the info. After I moved into this listening room the base was a little thin, but as mentioned, the large velodyne sub, set very subtlety has made a nice improvement. Intersting that the rear facing ports don't require a wall behind them to deliver as designed. I haven't heard any bad reports on the RF7s, and I'm almost sure they are for me. It just seems a little, crazy? to buy speakers unheard. I haven't any experience with horn loaded compression tweeters. (My hi fi shop owning friend isn't a fan of this technology, but I think our priorities are a little different. His new favorite Spendor D9s are a very impressive, detailed, speaker, but I don't think they will deliver the "concert feel"I'm looking for.) There is one pair of RF7's available at a good price, but they aren't local. The "room". Messy, and not for everyone, no restrictions on listening levels. (I'm almost too embarrassed to post this. Almost) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 46 minutes ago, skypig said: I haven't heard any bad reports on the RF7s, and I'm almost sure they are for me. It just seems a little, crazy? to buy speakers unheard. I haven't any experience with horn loaded compression tweeters. As much as I like my speakers do think it's crazy purchasing some without hearing them--That said, they do have a good reputation so if you don't like them you can probably resell them and recoup your money--Insofar as subwoofer is concerned, that will definitely help take up the lower end and if crossed over could make your two-way speaker into a Three-way system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattSER Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, skypig said: There is one pair of RF7's available at a good price, but they aren't local. First or second generation RF-7s? Honestly, the original RF-7s were one of the only Klipsch speakers I had a problem with. I found the horn tweeter to be entirely too hot. That being said, there are a couple of BIG differences between you and I. - Your room is a lot larger - Your using a nicer, more powerful amp - Your preferred music lends itself better to such a wild speaker when compared to my hard metal and electronic stuff. They do so many things well, it would be a shame not to try them. And if the price is good, you can always recoup your money if you don't like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Nice Z-1 model Sheene, gardener, doohan... Ive seen them all race in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypig Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Zen Traveler We agree, but they are 2000km away. MattSUR I'm looking at a brand new pair. RF7 IIs I agree, that in the unlikely event that I dislike them, I could on sell them, probably. Schu Thanks I have a matching CB750ko model behind the Sumo wheels. The '97 Doohan, '87 Gardner, and '67 Hailwood models are signed. When I get a '77 Sheene to fill the gap it will never be signed unfortunately. Nor will the '57 Libero Liberti Gillara 4. Each one is the world championship winning bike. 10 years between each. (Seeing the evolution is interesting.) I'll need a model of next years championship winner - another 10 years since Stoner won on the Ducati. Scary how fast time goes by these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattSER Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, skypig said: MattSUR I'm looking at a brand new pair. RF7 IIs Ah, no worries then. I have no experience with RF-7ii, but I've been told that the problem I had with the originals has been completely corrected on the ii version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Looks like you need new RF-7ii they will kick ***. The sub will help but I don't think you need it. If you got the money get you some new ones I bet you will like them. That 150 watt NAD will get those 7s sounding awesome. Then invite your hifi snob owner over to show him what real speakers sound like. I loved doing this same thing over the years. People at work brag about there stuff....so I have them over for some other reason and crank it.....and then I say ''oh those old things from 1972''' and by the way that's a 24 watt receiver doing that. The look on their face is priceless lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Could you turn everything around and put speakers close to the half wall ? Then reorganize the stuff on shelves behind you to tidy things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 13 hours ago, mattSER said: First or second generation RF-7s? Honestly, the original RF-7s were one of the only Klipsch speakers I had a problem with. I found the horn tweeter to be entirely too hot. Not discounting your opinion but to give a 2nd one in favor of the original RF-7s must say I absolutely love mine and there are a ton of owners like me. My wife and I watch movies anywhere between -6 to -3 after Audyssey calibration and I have enjoyed multichannel music at above 80 dB with peaks higher almost nightly for over 13 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I own many Klipsch speakers..... Klipschorn, KLF-20, Forte II, Cornwall, RF-7, Chorus II, and DIY Super Cornwalls (similar to CornScala). Klipsch makes some great speakers, I've never heard a bad Klipsch speaker yet. The original RF-7 is still my favorite out of all the RF-7 generations. I've listened to both RF-7 and RF-7II, both at retail dealer and short while at home when my son bought the RF-7II and setup at our house before he moved out. My son and I both preferred the original RF-7 over the RF-7II after we compared them side by side. It's not that we didn't like the RF-7II, we did. It's pleasant, balanced, and very nice sounding and a little more polite sounding than the original RF-7. The original RF-7 is a little more bold and a bit more detailed and we loved that about it. It's not too hot at all, I think those who say it's hot has more to do with the equipment they are using, it is more sensitive to that because it's a very revealing speaker, but used with top quality equipment it sounds great, it's sounds excellent with both movies and music. As many speakers as I have, I still have not been able to let my RF-7 speakers go. The original RF-7 made a huge hit in Germany with it's high detail presentation. Of course you can't get the original RF-7 speakers new anymore so the RF-7 II is the next best thing and certainly goes better with many different equip brands, and they do sound very nice, I was still impressed with them even if I did prefer the original RF-7 but I overall do prefer a more detailed sound. :) or HOT top as some call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypig Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 SkyDover Thanks for chipping in. I was actually a little worried about the "detail" available from the horn design. I assumed it would be a little less detailed than some conventional tweeters. I think I listen to people too much, and speakers not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Bum Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Horns will reveal more detail typically, approaching that of electrostatics. With no apparent WAF restrictions, I think you should cobble together some K-402 based multiple entry horns. That would kick RF-7II's butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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