jimjimbo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Could someone please point out this "simple, straightforward question", where a "simple straightforward answer" was applicable? I'm missing it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 2/2/2017 at 7:34 PM, Chief bonehead said: 38 is it. we measure a little better these days..... On 2/3/2017 at 11:11 AM, jjptkd said: So the insinuation here is that the forte II didn't actually have a frequency response down to 32hz? Do you have data to support that or is this just speculation? The new woofers in the forte III use the accordion style surround and presumably thinner cone usually designed for mid and upper bass frequencies where as the forte II woofer used more of a "sub" style rubber surround with a thick papered cone which typically do better in the lower frequencies. Is there a model number out yet for the new woofer? In response to the first quote, the question was asked in the second quote. I found it to be a simple and straightforward question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Chief bonehead said: You need to quit saying things that I didn't say. Here's a play by play of what was said: On 1/24/2017 at 11:15 AM, Ski Bum said: Very interesting. I've always appreciated my forte II for their excellent bass response, a remarkable juggling act of extension, sensitivity, cab size, and tight, well defined bass. Is it possible that the relative weakness in bass in your old fortes is due to your comparably huge room, and that you have your fortes perched up on big bass bins, off the floor and away from walls? Also curious as to extension...original forte, forte II spec 32 (I get that sort of extension in room here, easily), but Roy said the III's only go to 38 hz. Typo? Better start saving those ducats for the III and some Fifteens. On 2/2/2017 at 6:34 PM, Chief bonehead said: 38 is it. we measure a little better these days..... On 2/3/2017 at 10:11 AM, jjptkd said: So the insinuation here is that the forte II didn't actually have a frequency response down to 32hz? Do you have data to support that or is this just speculation? The new woofers in the forte III use the accordion style surround and presumably thinner cone usually designed for mid and upper bass frequencies where as the forte II woofer used more of a "sub" style rubber surround with a thick papered cone which typically do better in the lower frequencies. Is there a model number out yet for the new woofer? On 2/4/2017 at 5:27 PM, Chief bonehead said: naw. just making it up.... So you didn't say it directly but the insinuation is there or, you really were making it up and the spec's are correct? Chief bonehead Forum Veteran Regulars 505 443 posts Posted 17 hours ago 18 hours ago, jjptkd said: Here's a play by play of what was said: So you didn't say it directly but the insinuation is there or, you really were making it up and the spec's are correct? Done. You don't get it see ya!! As I told deano , I don't owe you anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 So, that brings us to a logical next question, which is are any of the Heritage and or Extended Heritage speakers of that time period correct as far as published frequency response? Best regards,, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 That's the attitude to take fellas, keep pestering the Bonehead with courtroom type questions. He will surely want to contribute here more often. What is the purpose of all this anyway? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarey13 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The way I see it and this in "my opinion" is that there seems to be some questions with some intended snarkiness or confrontation...challenging in a way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I would hate to see the first thread on Forte III be tarnished with arguing. Maybe the Forte II was -10dB at 32Hz and -3dB at 38Hz. Doesn't matter to me.....just want em'. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTR Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 hour ago, jwc said: I would hate to see the first thread on Forte III be tarnished with arguing. Maybe the Forte II was -10dB at 32Hz and -3dB at 38Hz. Doesn't matter to me.....just want em'. Totally Agree. Saving money now. I enjoy chief bonehead giving us bits and pieces. I figure anyone with a screen name of "bonehead" has a personality I understand... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Totally Agree. Saving money now. I enjoy chief bonehead giving us bits and pieces. I figure anyone with a screen name of "bonehead" has a personality I understand...If you had ever met him, you would completely understand… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted February 6, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2017 @Chief bonehead is "chief of all boneheads"! Some of the posts in this thread attest to that fact! I'll let y'all figure out to which ones I'm referring! Ha ha!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 4 hours ago, John Chi-town said: Here's a play by play of what was said: So you didn't say it directly but the insinuation is there or, you really were making it up and the spec's are correct? Chief bonehead Forum Veteran Regulars 505 443 posts Posted 17 hours ago Done. You don't get it see ya!! As I told deano , I don't owe you anything. No Patron. You do owe us. You owe us outstanding speaker design and you continue to do just that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted February 7, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2017 @IB Slammin...check your PMs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 On 2/3/2017 at 10:11 AM, jjptkd said: "So the insinuation here is that the forte II didn't actually have a frequency response down to 32hz? Do you have data to support that or is this just speculation?" Yea the Bonehead works on spec and has no data to provide. They are in Are Kansas, technology hasn't quite caught up to them yet. Rodney lucked into his property, every so often them guys in overalls fall into it. You should see the video of Dtel's wife chasing the chickens around the farm with a hatchet, now that is special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted February 7, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, ZEUS121996 said: On 2/3/2017 at 10:11 AM, jjptkd said: "So the insinuation here is that the forte II didn't actually have a frequency response down to 32hz? Do you have data to support that or is this just speculation?" Yea the Bonehead works on spec and has no data to provide. They are in Are Kansas, technology hasn't quite caught up to them yet. Rodney lucked into his property, every so often them guys in overalls fall into it. You should see the video of Dtel's wife chasing the chickens around the farm with a hatchet, now that is special. And...those folks in Arkansas have never heard of moonshine...heck I know folks in Texas that have never heard of moonshine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldred Posted February 7, 2017 Author Share Posted February 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, ZEUS121996 said: On 2/3/2017 at 10:11 AM, jjptkd said: You should see the video of Dtel's wife chasing the chickens around the farm with a hatchet, now that is special. Well we are waiting to see that one. George, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 5 hours ago, jwc said: Maybe the Forte II was -10dB at 32Hz and -3dB at 38Hz. Doesn't matter to me.....just want em'. Well, that probably isn't the case when comparing the curves of Cornwall II and Forte I. These speakers were made close to same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 6 hours ago, richieb said: That's the attitude to take fellas, keep pestering the Bonehead with courtroom type questions. He will surely want to contribute here more often. What is the purpose of all this anyway? That is a very good question. Why the attitude? What are you guys trying to accomplish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Looking at the brochures of the extended KG line and the extended Heritage line from the past.....published specs still show Forte II with the lowest extension. I had KG 5.2's also mated with Carver for years. Very good bass like my Forte II's I have. Maybe I'm a passive radiator guy and I didn't know it. Brochure-Heritage-1997.pdf Brochure-Klipsch-KG-series.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, dtel's wife said: And...those folks in Arkansas have never heard of moonshine...heck I know folks in Texas that have never heard of moonshine! You have a Stadium, I'm jealous Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted February 7, 2017 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, ZEUS121996 said: You have a Stadium, I'm jealous Mark Nope. We used that at the Watermelon Festival!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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