jason str Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 From Parts Express <link> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Jason, do you have a link? I've been interested in one of those for a while now.Sent from my SM-G920R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Thought i had a link posted but here it is again. http://www.parts-express.com/minidsp-2x4-hd-usb-dac-digital-signal-processor--230-324 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mboxler Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I own it's big brother, the 4X10 HD. It runs around $500, but has more outputs and physical volume control. No USB audio, though. In fact, I'm testing my almost completed Lxmini's with it now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I have the same thing in the normal version. I like the features but the gain structure isn't all that great, you can clip the inputs pretty easily, even after changing the internal jumpers. The HD version like you're looking at specifically fixes this problem. The engineers apparently wanted to maintain the ability for the normal version to run off of USB power so it is what it is. I know a guy who is a genius with these things if you had any specific questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 My concern is mainly floor noise and if it subtracts from sound quality in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zobsky Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 48 minutes ago, jason str said: My concern is mainly floor noise and if it subtracts from sound quality in any way. I've had the classic 2 x 4 and sold it a while ago to fund the 2x4HD My only complaint with the old one was the gain wasn't that great. The new one is MUCH better + I like the ability to go in directly with digital or USB. There's no objectionable noise floor or artifacts that I can discern. In short ... buy it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 Great news, i will pick one up and give it a try on the good review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Only sound quality issue I've ever ran in to is when it gets close to the red in the interface, which is clipping, then it sounds like trash. Problem is, it clips at lower levels than it's supposed to. HD version supposedly doesn't have that problem. Mark Seaton even recommends and sells the HD version, I think he claimed the normal version clips at like half a volt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zobsky Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3 hours ago, MetropolisLakeOutfitters said: Only sound quality issue I've ever ran in to is when it gets close to the red in the interface, which is clipping, then it sounds like trash. Problem is, it clips at lower levels than it's supposed to. HD version supposedly doesn't have that problem. Mark Seaton even recommends and sells the HD version, I think he claimed the normal version clips at like half a volt. I agree. Beyond that, the HD version supports FIR filtering (though it doesn't have as many taps as some of its more powerful brethen). It also has a nifty mixer that (at least my version of software) for the classic mini dsp didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I listened to a system yesterday using the miniDSP 2x4 HD. The owner allowed me to pause the music and turn the volume control to max. I did NOT hear any hiss. Considering that and some of the above comments, the HD version is probably a better choice. I think I will buy one for my next Bi-amp or subwoofer project. I believe you also need to purchase for $10. and download the applicable software, is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 After i pay for the receiver a forum member is holding onto this is next on my list, the software is additional but not sure why they would do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, jason str said: the software is additional but not sure why they would do that. Because there are multiple plug-ins that you can get and not just one. You could get all, or one of four, or three, or whatever. If you want one it's $10, two it's $20, etc. They do different things. Some vendors like Cross Spectrum throw one in for free though, you get a coupon code in the box, or at least mine did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 29 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: I listened to a system yesterday using the miniDSP 2x4 HD. The owner allowed me to pause the music and turn the volume control to max. I did NOT hear any hiss. I'm not sure that would be a good test, if you heard more hiss by turning the volume up, that just means the preamp is noisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yes that seems like a good reason for not pre-loading the miniDSP, I was also just thinking the software download may be their way to provide the user with the latest version right from the start. I should have stated that we turned up the amplifier gain, my point was that I did not hear any hiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, MetropolisLakeOutfitters said: Because there are multiple plug-ins that you can get and not just one. You could get all, or one of four, or three, or whatever. If you want one it's $10, two it's $20, etc. They do different things. Some vendors like Cross Spectrum throw one in for free though, you get a coupon code in the box, or at least mine did. Shame they have to nickel and dime you after you buy their hardware. Each plug in is $10 for all 4 outputs or for each one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 hours ago, jason str said: Each plug in is $10 for all 4 outputs or for each one ? Each plugin is like an operating system for the device and you only use one at a time but yes that includes all outputs. Look at the varying functionality of the ones for the 2x4 platform and you'll see. The HD version doesn't have as many. https://www.minidsp.com/products/plugins/2x4-plug-ins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 The HD version has everything i need. https://www.minidsp.com/products/plugins/2x4-hd-plugins/2x4hd1-detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zobsky Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 3 hours ago, jason str said: The HD version has everything i need. https://www.minidsp.com/products/plugins/2x4-hd-plugins/2x4hd1-detail The only additional thing I wish for would be 2 more outputs at the same price point i.e. a 2 x 6 HD - allows true active 3 way. The 4x10 HD is a bit too much $$ for me plus it doesn't have the input options that the 2x4HD offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 I thought of the same thing going over the websight, if i had tons of disposable income it may have been an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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