Hapatingjaky Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Sup all? I'm a long time Klipsch user / listener. I bought a setup for myself 6 years ago: 2x Klipsch F30 2x Klipsch B20 1x Klipsch C20 1x Klipsh Synergy 12" sub Basically the Synergy line at Best Buy... I know I know... Not the greatest but it has served me well. At the time of this purchase I also bought some Pioneer Receiver to power it all. Wasn't the greatest and it gave me HDMI drop out all the time. Annoyed the hell out of me until I replaced it with a Yamaha RX-V1079 which has been great with no HDMI drop out. The problem I am having and I can't tell if I had it before because I never tested for it until now is the Surround is horrible. The B20's are awefull, the sound even when boosted +10db are so quiet that even a foot away they can barely be heard. They do make a sound just very very low. So a buddy of mine asked what type of cable I was using, at the time I just used some 16 gauge monster crap from Best Buy, I know I know don't say anything... So I replaced it with Energy 12 Gauge cables, these are 50' runs to the back of the room. Immediately there was a difference in audio, they could be heard but still it was low. Recently there was an awesome sale, I was able to pickup two Klipsch 12" subs R-112SW for half price. Hooked those up and the base was just amazing compared to the single Synergy 12", but the best part the base wasn't deafening or annoying. Sure I can shake the house but I rarely have the home theater higher then -30 to -25 volume setting on the Yamaha. So they also had a sale on the Reference R-28F's so I bought two too replace the B20's in the rear. WOW! the audio just blew me away, the clarity the loudness of them was just amazing. So I then went ahead and renovated the entire home theater. Changed it around so it opened the room up and I am now sitting back from the 135" screen. Then came the last problem, after I had done this I thought maybe I should put 28F's in the front and put the F30's in the back. So I did but the F30's are very very quiet lol.... Tried boosting +10db but again it was just horrible. Even putting them back in the front now I can notice how quiet they are. I've tried everything but currently they have the 28F's on sale again, for $1000 for the pair and I am finding it hard to pass up so I am probably going to grab 2 more for the front, maybe move the F30's to the side for 7.2 or just sell them. I am torn though, should I replace the center as well and just be done with the Synergy? I can get the RC-62 II for $599.99 but how much of a difference will it make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Welcome. I think you answered your own question, when you moved away from the Synergy line, it made a huge improvement. I take it by the prices, you're not in the US? I heard local prices for an RC62ll were in the $160 range. The RC62ll is an excellent center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Dollar Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Welcome to the forum from another new member. I agree with Ceptorman also I no longer find much audio stuff at Best Buy that makes me happy. I started home theater with the Synergy series but with the RF3's as the fronts. Mistake. The reference series is a major step up that is well worth the price. I am using one of the Yamaha Aventage receivers and it has proven to be a great match so you are on the right track. There is a Star Trek movie where the Klingon moon Praxis explodes - a great way to test your new subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapatingjaky Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the info. I ended up not grabbing the RC62II and instead went with the Reference Premier RP-250C as reading it has much better build quality then the 62II. They were both the same price and I was given a $100 discount of the center channel since I've purchased a total of 4 towers and 2 subs from this company already which made the purchase a lot better. Got home and hooked everything up. Immediately noticed a difference even without adjusting settings. I also tried the old F30's at the side for 7.2, although impressive I find they took the quality away from the setup sound more scratchy then everything else in the home theater. So my setup is this: Epson 6040UB GrandView 135" Yamaha RX-V1079 Reference R-28F ( Front Left ) Reference R-28F ( Front Right Reference Premier RP-250c ( Center ) Reference R-28F ( Back Left ) Reference R-28F ( Back Right ) Reference R-112SW ( Front Left ) Reference R-112SW ( Front Right ) The sound is so warm and crsip now, you can actually hear the surround without having to crank everything up +10db. I may grab two more R-28F's before the sale ends for 7.2 setup but I dunno. I've spent a lot of money already... Edited March 11, 2017 by Hapatingjaky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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