Calpod Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 I have an Onkyo TX-8511, 100W a side. Just two channels. I've been considering the RF-3's. Do they need a sub? What subs are out or going to be out? My Onkyo doesn't have a sub out. I've got two old La Scala's but I'm looking for a more modern sound. Should I get some new speakers or stick with the La Scala's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockstarfish@hotmail.com Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 STICK WITH THE SCALAS. your gonna find that another speaker is a peice of *&^% compared to the scalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffgeorge Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 You will find the RF-3's to be very different from the LaScalas. They will have a much more "laid back" sound for the lack of a better word. If I could fit LaScalas in my HT room, I would have a pair. In a nutshell - both are great speakers in their own way. Very different though. ------------------ RF-3's : mains RC-3 : center RS-3's : surrounds KSW10 X 2 : subwoofers Receiver: Denon 2801 DVD: Panasonic DVD-A120 CD: Yamaha CDC-765 Cables: Tributaries Sat Receiver: Hughes Direct-TV DD5.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calpod Posted March 22, 2001 Author Share Posted March 22, 2001 Thanks for your answers everybody. Most people think I should keep the La Scala's. Would the RF-3's be a good addition to them? Thanks for all your response. Calpod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockstarfish@hotmail.com Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 if you got the money go for it. or buy some more scalas. im not sure the price on the others........ maybe you could do something about a sub? use a tape out? i don't know how well that would work but? who knows. does your amp have a and b speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockstarfish@hotmail.com Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 hey jeff. howd you get your signature to work. i don't think mine is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calpod Posted March 22, 2001 Author Share Posted March 22, 2001 Yes, It's got A and B channels. I've got about $1,000 for speakers. Which sub should I consider. I could use the RF-3's for HT and the La Scala's for music. Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockstarfish@hotmail.com Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 i mean a and b sets. two sets of speakers running off one amp. if you have this you could run a sub off one set and the scalas off the other set. i don't know what kind of burden this would be on the amp......might over load it. id look at the cv subs. if you like klipsch go for them. i tested one out a NFM and i didn't really think it had much bass. cv makes a good sub........go to cerwin-vega.com they have some on display....you can get them at best buy i beleve. i don't even use a sub with my scalas. i have the industrial. but i don't use them for ht. there stricktly music. i have a pretty good eq so i can put the bass up a notch and get all i need. but i don't have a pretty good power amp with that packs quite a punch. i use 200 wpc instead of 100 but i don't think ive hit the top yet. tried to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 I'm not sure what you're thinking with "a more modern sound". Speakers are accurate or not. I'm biased because I have 4 La Scalas, but I think they are far better speakers than the RF-3s. Why don't you spend your $1000 on a good powered subwoofer. It will get its input from the speaker outs of your receiver. I normally use the second pair of speaker terminals to "signal" the powered sub and that way I can easily turn the sub off if I want (A+B is normal, A is no sub). John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Man Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 Johns Albright is giving you good advice. If & when you get into home theater,then get more LaScalas. Right now you need a good sub, Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockstarfish@hotmail.com Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 a sub would give you more bass. not nessasarily a better sound. ------------------ ------------------------ LaScala (industrial) Main Radio Shack ssm-1200 mixer Carver 400 Amp Pioneer pd-4700 cd player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calpod Posted March 22, 2001 Author Share Posted March 22, 2001 Which klipsch sub would match my La Scala's. I don't think I want the 15' because of "sloppyness." Maybe the 10' or 12'. Thanks for all the response. Calpod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calpod Posted March 22, 2001 Author Share Posted March 22, 2001 Which klipsch sub would match my La Scala's. I don't think I want the 15' because of "sloppyness." Maybe the 10' or 12'. And I just go from my B channel speaker wire outs into the sub. Will this take power from my La Scala's or put power to the powered sub? Thanks for all the response. Calpod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gto6 Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 Check out the REL subs. Very musical and they do a nice job with HT as well, in the event you go to an HT setup. You can get into a used REL storm III for about $850.00.......I wouldn't go much lower in thier product line with La Scalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPonder Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 I like the legends much more than the RF3's. The KSW 10 will never deliver that punch that a 12 or 15 can. If you set a sub up correctly even the 15 will yield a very desirable effect. You can get a sloppy sound out of any sub if it's over driven or placed wrong. The 15 does what 12 or a 10 does with less effort. You should really audition them. ------------------ Onkyo TX8511 ADCOM GCD-700 KLIPSCH CF3,s KLIPSCH CF4's KSW-300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calpod Posted March 22, 2001 Author Share Posted March 22, 2001 Dponder, I have the exact same amp you do. How do you run your sub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPonder Posted March 22, 2001 Share Posted March 22, 2001 I run my fronts from A and my sub from B outputs. I also have the sub line level, I don't use the Hi-Pass. I keep the X-Over set low to keep the boominess away. I have a 15 and it sounds tight. I find that the recording sometimes is boomy...the sound can only be as good as the recording. ------------------ Onkyo TX8511 ADCOM GCD-700 KLIPSCH CF3,s KLIPSCH CF4's KSW-300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J M O N Posted March 23, 2001 Share Posted March 23, 2001 If you're interested in spending more money to improve your sound, instead of buying newer speakers (not necessarily "better" speakers), maybe you should consider investing that money in a better amplifier. That's where I would spend the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted March 23, 2001 Share Posted March 23, 2001 Calpod, I also have La Scala, and I use an REL Storm (original series) subwoofer. I *LOVE* the way the system sounds. Driving La Scala full range, with sub in parallel driven via speaker level inputs. Can't tell you what crossover frequency or sub volume level I'm using; sub is behind stuff and I reach over the top and twiddle with the knobs until it sounds right, but I have no idea where it's set. Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted March 23, 2001 Share Posted March 23, 2001 Don't put the RF-3 down. It is a fine speaker and matches my Cornwall very well. It is a different sound from the LaScalas. I wouldn't call it more "modern" though. I'd like to try making it 3-way, after the warranty. I didn't need the KF-20 for the price difference. When my room is set up a little differently, the LaScalas will be in the front and the RF-3s in the back. I haven't gotten a sub yet. I'm so used to the LaScala sound that I don't know what I'm missing, I guess. I'd like more bass out of my RC-3. I know HT makes that channel a more midrange frequency, but some actors have low voices. Again, a sub may solve this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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