jwc Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 So anyone.... if not Roy.... want to take a guess at the FR specs on this beast? Will it play out past 200Hz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I cannot see a reason for any sub to play over 100 Hz, it is after all a subwoofer unless I'm missing something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Is that a single or dual driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 31 minutes ago, jwc said: So anyone.... if not Roy.... want to take a guess at the FR specs on this beast? My understanding is the FR specs are very close to the 1802 with a Max Output down about 2db compared to the 1802. 35 minutes ago, jwc said: Will it play out past 200Hz? I believe so but I wonder if anyone would use it that high. Nulls in the polar response due to the bifurcated mouth would also start coming into play. JC you left before the sub got a real workout with some music Mark Casavant played on the system. miketn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Schu said: Is that a single or dual driver? Single 15" + Vent (Horn Loaded) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddelts Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Anyone know the price and availability date of the HLS 1502? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 8 hours ago, mikebse2a3 said: Single 15" + Vent (Horn Loaded) Ty... one would think this would be called a 1501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Schu said: Ty... one would think this would be called a 1501 I see it as 15" driver + Vented Cabinet = 2 acoustic sources driving the horn load. Thus 1502 miketn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 11 hours ago, jason str said: I cannot see a reason for any sub to play over 100 Hz, it is after all a subwoofer unless I'm missing something here. Whether they should or not is a different debate, but most crossovers aren't a brick wall for one, and material that goes up to 120 hz is recorded in the LFE track on blu rays. A typical 12 db / octave slope with a typical 80 hz crossover point and typical 120 hz LFE setting will have 3 digit frequencies coming through the subs a little, you can hear it on floor toms on concert blu rays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, MetropolisLakeOutfitters said: Whether they should or not is a different debate, but most crossovers aren't a brick wall for one, and material that goes up to 120 hz is recorded in the LFE track on blu rays. A typical 12 db / octave slope with a typical 80 hz crossover point and typical 120 hz LFE setting will have 3 digit frequencies coming through the subs a little, you can hear it on floor toms on concert blu rays. I normally recommend a 24dB/octave or steeper crossover slope on subwoofers if at all possible and i would imagine Klipsch will as well just like they do on the KPT-1802. 100 Hz is about the maximum frequency before subwoofer position becomes obvious limiting placement options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, jason str said: 100 Hz is about the maximum frequency before subwoofer position becomes obvious limiting placement options. That's why I like subs up front under the screen. The reality is that most AVR's are 12 db/octave on the subs and this can't be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 " That's why I like subs up front under the screen. The reality is that most AVR's are 12 db/octave on the subs and this can't be changed. " These are pro sound subwoofers, AVR's have no business in pro sound applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 No one here would EVER think about using Klipsch pro gear in a home environment with consumer level gear. LOL. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: No one here would EVER think about using Klipsch pro gear in a home environment with consumer level gear. LOL. If it fits through the door and using the proper equipment its always an option. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonddelts Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 6 hours ago, MetropolisLakeOutfitters said: Whether they should or not is a different debate, but most crossovers aren't a brick wall for one, and material that goes up to 120 hz is recorded in the LFE track on blu rays. A typical 12 db / octave slope with a typical 80 hz crossover point and typical 120 hz LFE setting will have 3 digit frequencies coming through the subs a little, you can hear it on floor toms on concert blu rays. I'm in a smaller room so this is my plan. To put the sub under my projector screen and in between the Jubes. Gonna go home and do some measuring tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 5/21/2017 at 11:11 PM, mikebse2a3 said: My understanding is the FR specs are very close to the 1802 with a Max Output down about 2db compared to the 1802. I believe so but I wonder if anyone would use it that high. Nulls in the polar response due to the bifurcated mouth would also start coming into play. JC you left before the sub got a real workout with some music Mark Casavant played on the system. OK. But that same 1802 cabinet is loaded with two 15' woofers to make the KPT-CINEMA GRANDEUR. The LF cabinet is called KPT-1515-LF. The spec sheet has is XO at 350Hz. I am assuming Roy is comfortable with the polars of that cabinet to 350Hz. Obviously the right drivers have to placed in there too. http://assets.klipsch.com/product-specsheets/KPT-Cinema-Grandeur-Data-Sheet-v03.pdf So... I am assuming it is possible that the 1502 may have decent play over 100Hz to where it might be a great LF cabinet with an awesome low end. Why not put on top a KPT-Xii or The KPT 305/308? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Some guys have asked about availability of the 1502, but those were only a prototype, they are not in production yet. No idea as to when they will be available or what pricing will be yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 11 hours ago, jwc said: So... I am assuming it is possible that the 1502 may have decent play over 100Hz to where it might be a great LF cabinet with an awesome low end. Why not put on top a KPT-Xii or The KPT 305/308? Well I believe that might be an option if your placing the system in a space that you can integrate a system as tall as the KPT-CINEMA GRANDEUR. I'm just speculating that the polar nulls might need to be taken into account as an upper limit on the system more than the on axis frequency extension capabilities of the system. Obviously Roy is the best one to give guidance in this situation. miketn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 On 5/22/2017 at 2:37 PM, jason str said: " That's why I like subs up front under the screen. The reality is that most AVR's are 12 db/octave on the subs and this can't be changed. " These are pro sound subwoofers, AVR's have no business in pro sound applications. Jason, You can bet your *** that I will end up with at least one 1802 if not a pair eventually Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 17 hours ago, twistedcrankcammer said: Jason, You can bet your *** that I will end up with at least one 1802 if not a pair eventually Roger Hardly worth it to squeeze another 5-10 Hz out of the TSCM's but at least you can say you have one or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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