Trippigs Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 This week I purchased a pair of 1985 Heresy HBR from my brother-in-law. He bought them new, never moved them and used them rarely......these things are a time capsule. I took the back off, no doubt the first time since they were installed at the factory, and looked around...not even dusty. Now he had them painted an off white which I might change. Plan to sand to see if they will clean up for staining but will have them professionally repainted if not. The cane grills are immaculate! I hope to keep them as long as he did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 You opened up the back and let out the 1985 air?! They'll never sound the same... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippigs Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 Yep...the 1985 air from Hope,AR smelled clean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Peter P. said: let out the 1985 air?! Probably not a bad thing......I mean it was 85..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK Thom Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 It looks like he took very good care of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmsummer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Take 'em back to unfinished, and then poly seal 'em. Beautiful! ...and 'Congratulations'! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitlow Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Don't sand. Use a paint stripper, then sand.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippigs Posted May 29, 2017 Author Share Posted May 29, 2017 Had not thought about paint stripper so I appreciate the advice. I figure this is high quality paint put on raw wood some 30+ years ago. Does that make any difference in the process you recommended? Do yall think there is much of a chance of cleaning these up enough for staining or ploy??? That is my real preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Those must be some of the last of the Heresy's produced prior to the introduction of the Heresy II in 1985. Those have the K-53-K squawker drivers used in the HII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Are the back edges painted? I'd experiment with stripper(s) there first, and only do the fronts if you like the result. Perhaps a heat gun on a low setting would also work. In any case, I'd use a plastic putty knife to remove loosened paint to avoid gouging the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Sweeeeet and those cane grills are worth gold..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippigs Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Well I just tried stripping the paint using Goof Off brand stripper. Followed the instructions and tested the entire bottom and one side. Absolutely no paint came off....all it did was lighten the color slightly as if had been bleached. Bummer. I suppose many cycles might have some effect but I don't think even this would produce clean unfinished wood. I guess the 30+ year old high quality paint on raw birch is just not going to come off chemically. So, I will try some sanding to see what this does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeK Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Its probably oil paint. You might try a different stripper. Or a heatgun/hair dryer. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadog Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 You might want to try Klean-Strip KS-3 Premium Stripper. It is a paste stripper with a very high percentage of methylene chloride. It's the strongest stripper I've used. Use in a well ventilated area (outside is best). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 To the extent the finish has been absorbed into the wood, I suspect that no stripper will fully extract it. The "bleached" effect is probably the best you'll get. Likewise, sanding will probably have limited success removing pigment absorbed into the wood. Perhaps re-veneering is your best, or only, option, other than enjoying them as they are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The outer ply is fairly thin, so don't go nuts sanding. Gently does it, if it will. I had my HBRs veneered with Mahoghany and finished in satin polyurethane. Now that the kids are gone, I would probably do boiled linseed oil and/or tung oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I've used ez strip paint and varnish stripper. I've found that the longer you let the chemical sit, the better it works. It said to leave it for 20 minutes, and I had a tough time accessing off the finish. The first time I forgot about it and it sat for an hour or so, everything came off easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippigs Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 I just used a DeWalt rotary palm sander with both 150 and 80 grit sandpaper. I worked one bottom side pretty aggressively and got through the paint to raw birch but unfortunately this is not something I would want to do all over. However, the sanding beautifully prepared all the surfaces for painting. So, I plan to have the professional painter who is painting our new home spray paint the Heresys in Sherwin Williams "Mindful Gray" to match the walls where the speakers will be. They are all taped up and ready to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted June 9, 2017 Moderators Share Posted June 9, 2017 @Trippigs the guy that inspected your speakers no longer works for Klipsch but attends our Pilgrimages! Would love for you to meet him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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