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Should I buy KPT 535 T for LCR?

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Hi Klipsch fans hoping to get some help here.

 

Could the kpt 535 be used in a small room? 

The room is 6m long 4,5m wide and approx 2,2 ceiling height.

Im thinking that it should be ok with 3-4m from speakers to listening position, am I wrong?

I have no idea what these speakers are worth or even what they cost new, is it possible to find a price list somewhere? Or maybe value of the drivers and horns if sold separate. I think I can get all 3 for 3500$. 

It would be allot cheaper to set up a jbl system.. but to many ppl got jbl.

I guess the only way is to go and have a listen to them, it's a 7 hour drive one way.. I would like to be leaving with the speakers :)

I'm pretty sure that these are hard to sell if I don't like them, so any input would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

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 Welcome

 

I think I'm confused, is this the KPT 535 T your talking about ? (pic)  Looking for home theater, or you just have the opportunity to buy them and it's 3 speakers ? 

 

If so , think the room is big enough? If your getting them for that price, I think that's a great deal on those speakers IMO but I really don't know prices, I would skip the JBL's, can't imagine them being better.

 

If it were me I would probably not use all of that in the room, maby make it a 2 way, I would have to think about all of that.

 

I don't know what they cost new, hopefully someone could give you a better idea. And some advice.

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I see your room measurements are in meters, so I'm guessing you're out of the U.S.  The best thing to do is get us some pics so we know which 535s we are looking at.

 

Good luck!

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I haven't bought the speakers yet, but it's the same as dtel posted KPT 535 T, I have 3 of them on hand.

And yes I'm not in the U.S.

i have never heard these speakers, I have heard a few Ht setups with Klipsch RF series, most of them sounded a bit sharp in the top.... that may be from bad setups tho im not sure. I've also heard a 2ch setup with RF7 mk1 and those where really nice.

 

Kpt 535 t Doesn't have passive crossovers so I was thinking that I might eq them to taste with mini dsp if they are a bit sharp in the top.?

Have any 1 made a passive crossover for this kinda setup? That would be interesting to see.

 

I have never owned horns before, but most good setups ive heard (2channel) have been horns. So I gues I have to get some :)

Im planning to use them for HT and stereo.

Any reason to go for a 2 way instead of the original setup dtel? I have seen ppl using the 402 horn in 2way.. I don't know mutch about horns, but wouldn't u need a tweeter on top of a 402 to get into 18khz?

 

Another thing I'm wondering about is the bass drivers, I have 6 jbl 2226 and I love how they sound in the 60- 300hz range.

Can they compare in any way? I tried to google the drivers but can't find mutch about them.

 

Room dimensions in feet are approx 20 feet long 16 wide 7+ feet ceiling. :P If my math isn't way off that's almost correct :D

 

Would I be better of going for other drivers and horns?

 

Sry about my English, didn't pay mutch attention in school :/ 

 

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I think most people used them with an active crossover, there may be the settings somewhere here pinned to the top of, maby in 2 ch?

 

I would think most people did not use the tweeter on top. But instead used the K69 driver which may be on that tweeter as the driver for the 402.

 

I wish people would see this, I know some have used this setup before with that bass bin.

 

I think that's a good price, I would guess the three tweeters and three 402 horns is worth that much and will beat out the JBL's your talking about.

 

I use the 402 horn with a different bass bin (MWM) with an active crossover, no tweeter. 

 

 

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I think JBL would be much easier to resell.   I love klipsch and have heard large horns and think they would be amazing but you are stuck w them for a long time.   With that said i do love pro audio

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I don't think the term "stuck with them" applies here. All these Klipscheads, including this one, would always be interested in used Klipsch products...............for the right price.

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They are 80in tall x 40 wide... his room is 18 x 14 x 7ish!  They would barely fit and the tweeter would point 3 feet above ear level....would bounce off ceiling in a bad way.

 

Im all for him getting a great rig but without testing it driving 7hrs.....no way imo!    Hes also not in USA thats a long drive for you to get them ☺

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Thanks for the input.

I ended up with a deal to buy allot more than planned :o 

It will probably be a month or so before I can pick them up :( 

I will be picking up 5x KPT 535-T, 2x crossovers (N2), 2x Peavey vsx 26 and 4x JBL 212-9 :) 

We will do a active vs passive setup when picking them up :D can't wait!

Any advice on amps? 

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   Congrats on your purchase.   A KPT-535-M trio sits behind an AT screen in my dedicated HT (~25'x16'x8') and I couldn't be more pleased.  A really nice aspect of the 535 and an active processor is you now have the ability to easily toy around with slug of different configurations (by moving the 510 driver to the 402) for a true "whats best for me" system.  2-way with the 402 (KPT-942),  2-way with the 510(KPT-904) or back to the 535.  Then you can compare the active 535-T to the passive 535-M with your N2 networks.  

  With your ceiling height I may suggest you lay the bass bins on their sides.  This will drop your tweeter height ~17".

 The 535 will let you know if there is any noise in your system.  Match your components (source to preamp to amp) wisely  .    The 535 with N2 networks have a nominal impedance of 3 ohms.  No clue as to how low they dip but you may choose to run an amp with plenty of stability.

 

 

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Sounds like good idea to test out the different setups Zim. :)

Have u tested your setup with active crossovers? What kinda amps are u running on the 535-M?.

Im thinking of DIY something like the Jubilee bass bins for 2 of them to set up in the living room. But the Jubilee doesn't use the same drivers do they? 

For the Ht room idk what to do yet.. If I lay them on the side it will take allot of space that I propably need for subs. 

What subs are u running in your Ht Zim? 

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  A pair of 'Jub-like clone' bass bins resides under 402s  in one of my 2 channel rooms.  It is fully active.  My 535 with 904 bass bins have always been mostly passive (I have networks for a 3 way passive 535-M,   3 way bi-amp 535-B, and passive 904). That's as close to an active/passive shootout I have done on the 535s.    For the HT, after lots of listening, I chose to stay passive for simplicity.  Both in setup (dialing in active systems is work, and not for the faint of heart), and function (number of amp channels)., 

  Currently I'm using QSC PLX-1202 on my 535-M and have previously toyed with the Crown K1, K2, and PS-200.   I found them all excellent.  Quiet, clean, powerful, reliable, cool running,  no power on/off thump, and all very musical.  The QSC did get fan swaps ($10 and 10 min.).  No fans in the others.

  Do you happen to know what drivers are on your 402s and 510s?  The drivers on my 510s (in the 535-M) are the B&C75.  At one time they were a factory option on the Jubs.,  and by most all accounts an upgrade to all other factory offerings (at the time).  Klipsch made a change to the 402 drivers a year or two ago and is currently using a modified B&C75 (K691).  Current factory Jubs. are shipped with the K691.

  Floor space was an issue for me as well when it came time for sub. placement.  I have two LilWrecker subs in the HT.  One is on the rear wall.  The other is on the front wall, center of the room,...laid sideways against the ceiling  above the 535-M on a stand :).

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It is possible  to go with smaller setup for that size room.  Now comes the tomatoes, ouch!

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57 minutes ago, derrickdj1 said:

It is possible  to go with smaller setup for that size room.  Now comes the tomatoes, ouch!

Been there..... Not going back!

 

 

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6 hours ago, Zim. said:

Been there..... Not going back!

 

 

I think I helped you get rid of your "smaller" set up. Those tiny surrounds you were using that didn't quite cut it (La Scala Industrial Splits) When people ask me about those "huge" speakers and I tell them I bought them from a guy that was using them as surrounds, for some reason, they don't believe me.

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On 7/13/2017 at 7:09 PM, derrickdj1 said:

It is possible  to go with smaller setup for that size room.  Now comes the tomatoes, ouch!

What!? :D I could always have a sound bar :P 

 

Im am not sure what drivers are in the 535's, have there been many changes to the drivers? I'm suddenly worried that I will get old drivers that I will feel the need to change $$$$ :( . Is there a list of the drivers that have been used during the years of production? 

The add for the speakers listed the 2017 mod, but I'm not sure they are...

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Looks great...how do you like the sound?

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