cgolf70 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Would love to purchase a pair of the new Forte IIIs but as I listen to my Forte I with the upgraded Crites diaphragms and crossovers, I wonder--"How much better can it get?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 It sounds like Roy pulled out the stops for the lll and produced a substantially "upgraded" Forte. Larger passive than either the 1 or 2, newest mid horn mump design and imagine the xovers have been fully optimized for this design. I have no idea as to the new driver compliment but someone will surely chime in with that knowledge. I heard them in the Hope listening room and they sounded damn good for a speaker that size. Both my wife and I felt they were tonally superior to the RF 7ll when played back to back. How much better can it get you ask? I too wondered that when deciding to buy Jubilees with beautiful KHorns already in the corners. The KHorns lasted less than a couple weeks. Things can and do sound better, sometimes in small increments sometimes by leaps. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgolf70 Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 Wow, better than the 7II??!! I haven't heard those personally but everything I read says they are one of the top benchmark speakers. Yes it can always get better if you have the $$ to spend!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I've heard forte II, chorus I, and chorus II speakers. I have not heard the forte I though. This being said, I believe the tractrix horn is a lot better than the original mid-range horns on the forte I and chorus I speakers. When we a+b the chorus I and the chorus II speakers, the biggest thing we noticed was the mid-range. Version 1 mid-range was very in-your-face (maybe shouty), whereas the version 2 was laid back and provided a lot more detail IMO. I have not heard the forte III as of yet, but I can only imagine how much better they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 The same was noticed when we a+b the chorus I and the forte II speakers against each other. Surprisingly, there was only a little difference that we noticed between the forte II and the chorus II speakers. Hope this helps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted July 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 10:41 PM, cgolf70 said: Yes it can always get better if you have the $$ to spend!! True, unless you can steal some ? Really it can easily get better, you really need to find some to listen to for yourself, it might take a while but also listen to other speakers, Cornwall's, LaScala's and some of the newer reference speakers, anything model you can. You will know when you hear it............but it can still get better so the more you listen to the better off you are, it's cheaper than jumping through different models to find what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me Loves Khorns Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 In the listening room in Hope, I too thought the Forte 3's sounded better than the F7II's. And I would have to say they gave the Khorns a close race. My son and I both thought they were very close to the Khorns, and we would be happy with those any day. I have the Jub's myself, and my son has my old Khorns. I also have a pair of Forte 2's in my bedroom system, and I have always liked them better than some Cornwalls I used to have, my LaScallas, and they sound close to the Khorns. The Jub's top them yes, but that's a completely different animal in terms of money and size etc. All of that to say, is that my Forte 2's are one of my all time favorite speakers, and I have most all Heritage speakers or have had them in the past. And the next speaker I would be buying at this point will be some pairs of Forte 3's, they are simply that good. Until then, I do love my Forte 2's and am thrilled with them, and will always keep them around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK Thom Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I have a feeling the Threes are destined to become a classic. I hope to hear a pair later this year while down south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 9:32 PM, richieb said: It sounds like Roy pulled out the stops for the lll and produced a substantially "upgraded" Forte. Larger passive than either the 1 or 2, newest mid horn mump design and imagine the xovers have been fully optimized for this design. I have no idea as to the new driver compliment but someone will surely chime in with that knowledge. I heard them in the Hope listening room and they sounded damn good for a speaker that size. Both my wife and I felt they were tonally superior to the RF 7ll when played back to back. How much better can it get you ask? I too wondered that when deciding to buy Jubilees with beautiful KHorns already in the corners. The KHorns lasted less than a couple weeks. Things can and do sound better, sometimes in small increments sometimes by leaps. The forte 1 and II both have 15" passives as does the III. The main difference between the II and III is titanium diaphragms in the squawker and tweeter. As well as the above described "Mumps" on the mid range horn. I am an original owner of forte II, since 1992. Several years ago I upgraded my diaphragms to titanium in squawker and tweeter as well as new BC networks. The upgrade to titanium diaphragms in squawker requires a band pass roll off between squawkers and tweets which is a simple and inexpensive mod. Do this all for under $500.00 and I am convinced that the difference between the II and III will be negligible at best. Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, John Chi-town said: The forte 1 and II both have 15" passives as does the III The fortr'1 has a 12 inch passive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, billybob said: The fortr'1 has a 12 inch passive. You are correct. However the II, has a 15" passive. The point remains the same however, in that less than a $500.00 upgrade on a pair of II's will essentially give you a forte III. Unless you think mumps on a horn is worth an extra $3,000.00 plus??? Best regards, John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted July 22, 2017 Klipsch Employees Share Posted July 22, 2017 On July 18, 2017 at 8:54 PM, cgolf70 said: Would love to purchase a pair of the new Forte IIIs but as I listen to my Forte I with the upgraded Crites diaphragms and crossovers, I wonder--"How much better can it get?" Upgraded? You mean modified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted July 22, 2017 Klipsch Employees Share Posted July 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, John Chi-town said: You are correct. However the II, has a 15" passive. The point remains the same however, in that less than a $500.00 upgrade on a pair of II's will essentially give you a forte III. Unless you think mumps on a horn is worth an extra $3,000.00 plus??? Best regards, John You really think that that all that was done? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted July 22, 2017 Klipsch Employees Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, John Chi-town said: The forte 1 and II both have 15" passives as does the III. The main difference between the II and III is titanium diaphragms in the squawker and tweeter. As well as the above described "Mumps" on the mid range horn. I am an original owner of forte II, since 1992. Several years ago I upgraded my diaphragms to titanium in squawker and tweeter as well as new BC networks. The upgrade to titanium diaphragms in squawker requires a band pass roll off between squawkers and tweets which is a simple and inexpensive mod. Do this all for under $500.00 and I am convinced that the difference between the II and III will be negligible at best. Best regards, John Good for you and your conviction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chief bonehead said: You really think that that all that was done? I was "generalizing" of course. However what I have read on the official Klipsch website that is available thus far, points me in that direction. Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chief bonehead said: Good for you and your conviction. I thought the term :"Forum" was for the free flow of thought and information? Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted July 22, 2017 Klipsch Employees Share Posted July 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, John Chi-town said: I thought the term :"Forum" was for the free flow of thought and information? Best regards, John Right and I got a chance "flow my thoughts". It's all good dude. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Hoping that the new III is everything it is cracked up to be. My bet is, it is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Just now, Chief bonehead said: Right and I got a chance "flow my thoughts". Easy, Sugar....... We can all have an opinion without it becoming "personal"...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted July 22, 2017 Klipsch Employees Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, John Chi-town said: Easy, Sugar....... We can all have an opinion without it becoming "personal"...... Lol! Not personal. I would however like to see your data or listening impressions to conclude that their is just not that much difference. I can show you my data, sweetheart.....I am however glad that it's just your opinion. And I of course have mine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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